lasbagman
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Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:04 am

Effective 16 March 2004, PR will commence service to LAS from MNL
using A340-300 Airbus. The flight will go through YVR.
Philippine will be Groundhandled by Globeground North America. GGNA Will handle Passenger service, Baggage Service, Ramp and Operations. GGNA
currently handles Air Canada, Hawaiian, Mexicana and Japan Airlines.
Philippine will fly from Terminal 2 at McCarran Airport.

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picarus
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:20 am

Intersesting. Certainly wouldn't be my first hunch for a sustainable O/D market, but stranger things have happened.

Didn't SQ already eliminate service to LAS because it couldn't make it work?

Is PR allowed to carry local traffic between YVR-LAS?

Is the model based on the Filipino population in Vegas visting the "home country?" If so, I had no idea it was that large.

Picarus

 
scottysair
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:29 am

Yes, as for SQ was pulled out of LAS from last year of 2003 and due for cutback with Sars. This is exactly was flies out of LAS to HKG flight before and it is on the B777 aircraft.
 
yegbey01
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:59 am

PAL will be allowed to sell tickets on the YVR-LAS segment the same way they were allowed to sell tickets on the YVR-SFO.

 
LHR001
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:33 pm

Singapore Airlines service from Las Vegas to Hong Kong suffered from many different ailments. One of the most notable was the constantly changing flight times. The departure times ran from 1:30am to 12:15am to 7:00am to 8:45pm and many others in between.

Second the airline had a problem with capacity on the flights. Business Class was always full and Economy would leave with only 45 to 60 passengers. Singapore needed an aircraft similar to the A340-500 to sustain the service.

Last, SARS.... the nail in Singapore Airlines coffin in Las Vegas. Singapore Airlines has ended all ties to Las Vegas. If anything they will return to their former destination of Chicago before...ever..ever... returning to Las Vegas!


Philippine Airlines is due to arrive in Las Vegas from Vancouver and Manila at 420pm and depart at 610pm. The local Filipino community (which is large), is very happy to see the advent of new service to the Philippines!


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KL808
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Sat Jan 24, 2004 12:51 am

Oh boy I cant even wait to see PR's A340 at LAS. Cant wait to spot them.

Yes, there is a large population of Filipino's in LAS. Most of them if returning to the Philippines have to fly first to SFO or LAX to get to MNL, SO LAS i believe would be a very good Destination for PR. There must be a lot of VFR traffic on that route. YVR-LAS... does anybody know how many airlines fly that route? Can they get a lot of local pax? I think their only flying this route 3x weekly and if everything goes well they want to go daily.

drew

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yegbey01
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Sat Jan 24, 2004 1:15 am

America West will be starting service nonstop between YVR and AS / KLAS), USA - Nevada">LAS daily using a CRJ-900 and set to begin March 1.

AS also flies daily using a B737-400

HMY Airways flies twice a week using a B757.

This in addition to a slew of charter flights (Skyservice, WestJet, Air Transat) typically two flights a week each using A310, A330, B737, A320

So, I don't think that the PAL flights will have any imnpact on pricing or will have any overall effect on the current service.
 
CanadaEH
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:22 am

I wonder what this is going to do for the competition on the route. As stated above:

America West - daily CRJ9
Alaska - daily 734.
Skyservice: 2-4x weekly A319.
Westjet: 2x weekly 732.
HMY: 2x weekly 752.

Air Transat stopped flying this route last year.
Air Canada stopped flying this route last year.

What frequency will Philippine be flying in a week?
EH.
 
CanadaEH
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:24 am

To add on to what I said, Signature (the company that charters Westjet) pulled us off that route for a month and a half due to excess capacity when HMY entered the market. Skyservice also pulled half its flights due to excess capacity as well.
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yegbey01
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:29 am

4 times a week using an A343.

But they can't be counting on passengers from YVR to LAS to make the route profitable.

There's lot of philippinos in Western Canada that will be filling up a lot of seats
 
N751PR
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RE: Philippine Airlines - MNL /YVR/ LAS

Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:20 am

Oh boy I cant even wait to see PR's A340 at LAS. Cant wait to spot them.
You're not the only one anxious to see PR's tail in LAS.  Big thumbs up Even though I live closer to LAX, it seems easier for me to get to LAS through one of our once a month trips there so I'll make sure to see it on our trip in March or April. Big grin The Filipino-American pop in the Vegas Valley seems to be pretty big but when my friend told me about this, I was surprised to hear they would be doing LAS instead of maybe seeping through to the East Coast. But again its gonna be sweet to see PR in LAS.
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