timz
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Do US Airlines Fly Over Cuba?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 1:56 am

Lots of US airline flights would fly over Cuba if they could, to Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Panama and S America. Do they? Does Cuba charge a fee? If so, can the airlines pay without violating the embargo?
 
Pilot1113
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RE: Do US Airlines Fly Over Cuba?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 2:23 am

As I understand it, all US airlines are not permitted to fly anywhere near Cuba. This includes over it. Thus, the flights have to take a longer route to their destination. That's why if you want to go to from Boston to Costa Rica you have to cross over Texas on your way over there.

I hope this helps.

- Neil Harrison
 
OPNLguy
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Cuban Overflights..

Wed Jan 19, 2000 2:46 am

Actually, with prior coordination and approval from the Cuban government, you can overfly Cuba via the Giron or Maya corridors that run north-south across the island. Stray outisde the corridor and they get a little miffed, and might even send up a Mig or two depending upon the political climate d'jour. If they're really pissed off, sometimes the close the corridors and everyone had to deviate around their airspace...

Don't know how much an overflight costs, as that aspect was handled by out finance department.
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
 
OPNLguy
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Cuban Overflights..

Wed Jan 19, 2000 2:46 am

Actually, with prior coordination and approval from the Cuban government, you can overfly Cuba via the Giron or Maya corridors that run north-south across the island. Stray outisde the corridor and they get a little miffed, and might even send up a Mig or two depending upon the political climate d'jour. If they're really pissed off, sometimes the close the corridors and everyone had to deviate around their airspace...

Don't know how much an overflight costs, as that aspect was handled by out finance department.
ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
 
scxmechanic
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RE: Do US Airlines Fly Over Cuba?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 5:40 am

I know for a fact, my airline flies over Cuba on a regular basis. They have to have an authorization code or something similar to a slot code, like what would be used at major airports. It is usually listed on the flight plans that guys OPNLguy generate for the crews.

As a matter of fact, I will be flying from MSP to Havana Cuba this coming weekend and the next. (22nd and 29th.) We have a special charter going down. The first trip I make, we will have about 5 hrs on the ground before flying back to MSP.

Just another stamp in the ole passport...  )
 
calpilot
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RE: Do US Airlines Fly Over Cuba?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 8:28 am

I fly over Cuba all the time, the controlers are great, their English is very good, and they give me the impresion they don't care were we are in the corridor. When you check in they don't really care about all the reporting points, except the enterance, and exit of the FIR.
 
Guest

RE: Do US Airlines Fly Over Cuba?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 9:07 am

...and at my airline. We usually go through Air Routing in Houston for our Cuban overflight permits. As I understand it, the embargo is avoided by depositing the overflight money (about $2500, I think) in a Canadian account. The overflight permit number from Cuban authorities is put in the remarks section of the filing strip, and as long as the flightplan is through the corridor that you were approved for, there shouldn't be any problems. ADIOS
 
Boeing727
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RE: Do US Airlines Fly Over Cuba?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 9:22 am

A friend of mine flew with a UPS B727QF (charter flights on the weekend) from Louisville via Nashville to Aruba and they had to fly around Cuba; I suppose they did not get authorization to use the corridors other people have mentioned.

Boeing727
 
CaymanCX
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RE: Do US Airlines Fly Over Cuba?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 10:59 am

I havent read all of the replies, but Pilot 1113 is wrong. Back in 1997 I flew from Baltimore (BWI) nonstop to Grand Cayman (GCM) on a course that took us over the Atlantic, through the Bahamas, over Cuba, and approaced G Cayman from the north, down 7Mile Beach, and into Owen Roberts Airport. I tried to post a photo I took of Cuba from the 737-300, but the quality wasn't good enough, (I was over the wing!). Coincidentally, we flew over Cuba AGAIN on the return flight, also USAirways, a 737-400 that time.

Take a flight to the Caribbean, the views from the air are fabulous!
Cuba, however, wasn't too spectacular. The part we flew over was mostly
farmland, I beleive - not too gorgeous!!


Cheers,
Patrick.
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