pilotman52
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Retirement By Age 60...

Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:14 pm

Hello,

After reading this month's "Flying" magazine, the retirement of airline pilots at the age of 60 (at least in the US, not sure about anywhere else) was brought up. I was just wondering if anyone thinks/knows if that age could be pushed up in the future? I'm just saying that because with all the medical advancements and pilots not wanting to retire, it seems as if there is a lot of pressure on the government, or whoever makes up those rules/regulations (FAA?). Any comments? Thank you!

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usnseallt82
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RE: Retirement By Age 60...

Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:19 pm

Well, 60 seems ripe to me, but I've got a long way's to go on that one. I'd vote for any increase in the regulation age because whenever my eyesight takes a crap, whether 60 or 40, I'll be sure to pull my own happy ass off the flight deck.  Big thumbs up

However, until then, I'm all in favor of letting those capable fly as long as possible, regardless of age. It should be relative to the individual, based on medical exams and personal desire.

Cheers!
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Filterboy
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RE: Retirement By Age 60...

Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:42 pm

British Airways still retires all pilots and cabin crew at 55.
 
flyboyaz
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RE: Retirement By Age 60...

Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:50 pm

I can understand the age restriction, but I do think 60 is a tad bit too young. I've seen many pilots that just retired and they were very sharp and knew their stuff! I would say it should be bumped up to about 65.
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bucky707
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RE: Retirement By Age 60...

Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:03 am

just my opinion, a biased on to be sure, but can a 61 year old fly as well as a 45 year old? Probably, when they are well rested, well fed and have had a chance to maintain their health. The problem is that is not realistic in the airline world anymore. Pilots are flying more and more, layovers are getting shorter, days longer, hotels cheaper. At the end of a four day trip, I am exausted, and I am in my early 40's. The captains I fly with look worse at the end of a trip. Realistically, if the working conditions keep degrading, they should probably lower the age.
 
SlamClick
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RE: Retirement By Age 60...

Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:15 am

The "age sixty rule" was upheld by the US Supreme Court in about 1996 or so. They decided that it was justified age discrimination because of the danger of "subtle mental incapacitation."

Does anyone have the ages of the justices who made that ruling, while exempting themselves.

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Celticmanx
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RE: Retirement By Age 60...

Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:40 am

I just want to add something.
Regardless of the physical and mental condition of the pilot at 60. If there wasn't such a rule, a lot of young, not very experienced pilots would be forever in the queue waiting for a job position.
Don't get me wrong!!!
I understand there are people who reach the 60's and are as sharp as when they were 30 or 40 y.o. I even know a guy who is 66 and stand 45 minutes on the pitch playing football (or the so called soccer if you wish) with our team, where most of us are in the mid 20's. So I believe that 60's could be quite restrictive for certain individuals, but at the same time helps to maintain a fair replacement pattern.

Cheers!!!
 
SlamClick
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RE: Retirement By Age 60...

Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:52 am

Celticmanx

You are absolutely right and when I was thirty I wished the old codgers would retire. Now that it looms for me it is subject for argument.

If the retirement finances were better I think I would really be ready to quit.
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BMAbound
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RE: Retirement By Age 60...

Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:06 am

My 66 year old CFII starts every day with a 6 mile run and h-ll, he has more energy than I do! He has had a First Class medical since the beginning of time and I am 110 % he would do well as a airline pilot.

As mentioned earlier, it's all individual.

johan
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