NrtExpress
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JAL's New Routes For 2004

Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:53 pm

JAL continues its rapid expansion in China by launching NRT-HGH (Hangzhou) 5 times weekly and KIX-HGH twice weekly services. The twice weekly KIX-TAO will also commence. All these flights are by 763. In addition. JAL will increase frequency on NRT-TAO and KIX-CAN flights. These new services will commence from the beginning of the summer schedule.

In Asia, the Vietnamese market continues to grow and JAL will begin KIX-HAN twice weekly by 763. The new code share route, FUK-SGN, will start in April, operated thrice weekly by VN's 763. The leisure market to BALI is making a rapid come back and JAL will reinstate the daily non-stop 744 service to DPS from NRT. NRT-CGK will be a separate flight and run daily by MD11. The new 777ER will replace MD11 on its thrice weekly NRT-DEL service from July.

In Europe, the ZRH service will run daily from June for the peak summer season. The mixture of MD11, 777ER and 744 will be deployed on the ZRH route. And beginning in Feb, 2005, JAL will launch a daily non-stop 777ER service between CDG and the new Chubu International Airport (Centair) being built off-shore in the bay south of Nagoya.


 
717fan
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:17 pm

The 777ER is that a -200 or a -300 on the ZRH route?
Thanks
 
bartond
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:52 am

Anything brewing for expansion to North America?

Where all does JAL fly to in North/South America? LAX, SFO, YYZ, JFK, etc?
 
yegbey01
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:33 am

JAL doesn't fly to YYZ actually.
 
EddieDude
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:18 am

Add to those cities YVR and MEX.
Next flights: MEX-LAX AM 738, LAX-PVG DL 77L, SHA-PEK CA 789, PEK-PVG CA A332, PVG-ORD MU 77W, ORD-MEX AM 738
 
jetskipper
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:40 am

Also add ORD and I believe ANC.
 
olli
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:39 am


And also GRU.

Regards
 
NrtExpress
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:39 am

717fan,

The 777ER to be introduced on the AA), Japan">NRT-ZRH route will be -200. JAL will receive its first two of their 777-300ER later in the year configured in a three class cabin. I don't know where they will be deployed initially. The 777-200ER will be introduced on the ZRH route twice weekly from July on Wed and Sat.

JAL also fly to LAS nonstop four times weekly from AA), Japan">NRT. The flights are by 744 ( 2 class ) and make a stop at LAX on the return segment. Even though some US carriers are expanding capacity to Japan ( AA's new daily LAX-AA), Japan">NRT as well as UA's reintroduciton of ORD-KIX daily 777 routes ), JAL is cautious about the over capacity on the transpacific routes. They will be focusing upon the yield improvement by upgrading their premium cabins; introduction of the new sky-sleeper solo first class and the new sleeper type shell flat seats executive class to LAX, ORD and SFO routes.

ANC is strictly a technical landing station for their freighter services linking Japan with North America as well as Europe. ( JAL does not fly cargo flights to Europe over the Siberian route )

As JAL will retire most of their MD11s and DC10s during the upcoming fiscal year, watch for the gradual deployment of 777-200ER on such routes as AA), Japan">NRT-HKG, AA), Japan">NRT-KUL, AA), Japan">NRT-CGK in addition to the ZRH route.
 
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:56 am

Most of the NRT-KUL flights are going to be upgraded to B744 once the MD-11s are gone. B744s will operate on most days and a couple of days on B777 and B767. Are they going to introduce a new evening flight to KUL for flight connections from the US?
 
717fan
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:53 am

Thanks NrtExpress, nice to see more 777's at ZRH.
 
bombayhog
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:58 am

Nrtexpress, what is this is your response post: "AA), Japan">AA), Japan">NRT"? I see this pop up often in threads and I'm confused by it.

Also, what airport is TAO?
 
NrtExpress
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:14 am

Bombayhog, to be sure, I really don't know why this "AA), Japan">AA) came about. I certainly did not type it in and did not see it in edited messages. Could this be some sort of a bug? Could anyone enlighten me? Thanx..

TAO is Qingdao, the home of Qingdao beer. The city has a strong historical and economic tie with Japan as the port city once was an important occupied territory of Japan. The same goes for DLC, Dalian.

Odie, I don't think JAL is going to offer additional flights to KUL anytime soon. It would be nice if ANA reinstates its service to KUL but that is also highly unlikely.

 
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:29 am

This summer will also see JAL cease flying 747 Classics to mainland North America as NRT-YVR and NRT-YVR-MEX are upgraded to 744's.
 
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:34 am

I am surprised that no one is looking at MAN to Japan direct, NRT or KIX
 
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:34 am

There are preliminary talks between MH and NH for a possible code-share agreement. I can't tell you more on that though.
 
NrtExpress
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:23 am

From April, JAL will be codeshare flights operated by Air Tahiti Nui to PPT.
Twice weekly nonstop to PPT from NRT, while one weekly flight is operated via KIX; all on TN's 343.
 
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:38 am

JAL and ANA Chinese route expansion could come from a couple of reasons.

The flow of people from Japan to China and the flow of goods from China to Japan have increased tremendously in the recent years. Many businesses especially in the manufacturing sectors have moved from Japan to overseas. Therefore there has been a great increase in demand for business travel and cargo between Japan-other Asian cities.

I also heard that the Chinese government has been waiving visa requirement since last year for Japanese nationals visiting China if their visit lasts 15 days or fewer. I believe this is making mainland China one of the most attractive places to visit among Korea, Taiwan and Guam/Saipan for a long weekend getaway across Japan.

More than a few Narita slots are now available for B777/B767s (short hauls) or smaller aircraft because they can use the short runway there for both departure and arrival.

TokyoNarita.






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martinairyyz
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:51 am

JAL doesn't fly to YYZ actually.


They codeshare with AC... Now if Air Canada goes down.......

*Thinks of all the possibilities*

I'll sleep on that one.....
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:57 am

JAL doesn't fly to YYZ actually. They codeshare with AC...

Bullshit.

JAL codeshares with American Airlines to YYZ through ORD. They have no codeshare relationship whatsoever with Air Canada.
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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:34 pm

is JAL predicting an increase of passengers flying from Japan - HNL? maybe add more flights to HNL?

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RE: JAL's New Routes For 2004

Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:40 pm

MartinairYYZ,

I think I know what you mean by codesharing with AC. What they usually do, is that they can offer you the YVR-YYZ segment directly from JAL. But it's not a codeshare. It's an "in conjunction" ticket.