CometII
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Which Airline Owns The Biggest Hub?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 6:21 am

Just like the Topic Question asks, does anyone know which airline has the biggest hub in the world? I have no idea, my very wild guess...maybe UA in ORD??
 
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RE: Which Airline Owns The Biggest Hub?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 6:53 am

Again, we need to clarify what you mean by "biggest":
Most flights per day?
Most pax in a day?
Most number of cities served?
 
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RE: Which Airline Owns The Biggest Hub?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 6:57 am

Well, since you put it that way...I would like to know the biggest hub in all of the cattegories!!    
 
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Delta And ATL

Wed Jan 19, 2000 6:57 am

In both the fields of flights and Pax, the answer is Delta Air Lines, and their hub in Atlanta William B. Hartsfield International -

Atlanta is the single most important hub in the world, largely due to the fact that Delta is the biggest airline in the world in terms of Passengers Carried.

Hope this helps.



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Tariq
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Fedex & MEM

Wed Jan 19, 2000 7:11 am

i would say over all is Fedex in MEM of the amount of flight and trafic and since Fedex holds the largest fleet in the world ,the latest figure was 619+ airplanes.
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RE: Delta And ATL

Wed Jan 19, 2000 7:15 am

I agree with Delta/ATL. Last I heard, Delta had over 600 flights a day out of ATL.

Regarding FedEx...their fleet of 619 airplanes may be biggest in the world (I don't know), but a lot of them are Cessna Caravans that wouldn't get all the way back to MEM. I'm reasonably certain that the HNL based Caravans used for Hawaii interisland flights don't leave the state...that's what the MD-11s are for.
 
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RE: Fedex & MEM

Wed Jan 19, 2000 7:16 am

You may well have a very good point - or if not FedEx then UPS & Louisville is certainly somewhere in the top - bar the whole passenger carrying lark......

Never thought of the Cargo Airlines!




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RE: Fedex & MEM

Wed Jan 19, 2000 7:16 am

You may well have a very good point - or if not FedEx then UPS & Louisville is certainly somewhere in the top - bar the whole passenger carrying lark......

Never thought of the Cargo Airlines!




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RE: Which Airline Owns The Biggest Hub?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 7:20 am

everbody knows it is delta in atlanta 600+ and counting

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Is It Delta Or United

Wed Jan 19, 2000 7:44 am

I did some checken and DELTA has 87 gates it operates at ATL, UNITED only has aprox 68 gates at ORD.
so is terms of gates it is delta ( I didn't look at cargo Airlines)

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RE: Is It Delta Or United

Wed Jan 19, 2000 7:49 am

at the most united has 500 and change in chicago if i remember it is around 450-470.delta has over 600 not even close as far as united at ord is concerned
 
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RE: Is It Delta Or United

Wed Jan 19, 2000 8:12 am

The last time I checked, the cargo airlines didn't use gates. =)

If more passengers go through ATL each year, that most likely shows that Delta has the strongest hub. I understand that AirTran has a large presence at ATL, but I don't think it's that significant when you consider that the traffic at ORD is split between AA and UA. I'm not saying that it's a 50/50 split, but a reality check says that Delta has that one covered.
 
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RE: Which Airline Owns The Biggest Hub?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 9:14 am

Delta with it's partners and alliances...

ie ASA,South African, Air France Aeromexico Air Jamaica etc etc operates the largest hub in ATL

Not that I happen to enjoy ATL.... LOL

 
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FedEx At MEM & IND

Wed Jan 19, 2000 9:47 am

FedEx, based out of MEM, also has a major hub in IND (IND is the #1 fastest growing cargo airport in the world).



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ATL Is Right

Wed Jan 19, 2000 11:04 am

ATL is the busiest hub, with 625 mainline Delta departures alone. DFW for AA comes in second, with about 525 mainline departures. ORD for UAL comes in third, with 475 mainline.

BTW, the mkt share @ ORD is roughly as follows: 47%UAL, 35% AA, 17% everyone else. This makes sense as UA have 475 mainline and AA have about 330-350 mainline.
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Air France?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 11:17 am

Since no one puts there answers in the title of the topics i may be repeating what someone has already said but I understand that Air France has the most connections, whether this counts as the biggest i dont know.

They have almost double BA at LHR. But i know that BA carries more people. They have over 7000 connections a day. Is that more than any american airline? considering they spread out their hubs i would think so
 
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RE: Air France?

Wed Jan 19, 2000 3:29 pm

Air France has a big fleet - but only about a third or a half the size of that of Delta and/or United - no competition really....

Altho I believe that CDG is the biggest hub in Europe in terms of connection possibilities...........



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RE: Which Airline Owns The Biggest Hub?

Thu Jan 20, 2000 1:48 am

My opion is that LAX is a major hub for most airlines in the states. I think it has the most airtraffic in the southwest USA. am I right about this? 8 terminals thats a record.
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UGH....BACK To LAX Again?!

Thu Jan 20, 2000 2:27 am

YWG,

LAX may have a lot of flights, but when comparing HUBS, it doesn't even come close! And please don't start on the LAX is a hub for American thing again. It is a hub for United, but not American....
 
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Delta ATL, Untited IAD

Thu Jan 20, 2000 7:00 am

I kmow that Delta owns 5/6 terminals at ATL, and ATL has the most passengers a year, and delta flies the most passengers a year. UAL at IAD, now that' s a hub. UAL owns almost all of the gates at IAD, and is the only airline serving ORD from IAD. I would say that is the most 'massive' hub. Also Delta at CVG is huge.
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RE: Which Airline Owns The Biggest Hub?

Thu Jan 20, 2000 7:19 am

AA doesn't even consider LAX a hub.

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An Example Of U.S. Hub Departures

Thu Jan 20, 2000 7:55 am

As an example, here are the number of scheduled departures for Thursday, Januuary 20th by eyeballing the published schedules:

UA IAD 113 Mainline (365 with regionals)
UA ORD 429 Mainline (562 with regionals)
UA DEN 283 Mainline (582 with regionals)
UA LAX 208 Mainline (390 with regionals)
UA SFO 228 Mailine (346 with regionals)

US PIT 260 Mainline (502 with regionals)
US PHL 233 Mainline (378 with regionals)
US BWI 80 Mainline (146 with regionals)
US CLT 308 Mainline (463 with regionals)

DL ATL 658 Mainline (894 with regionals)
DL SLC 153 Mainline (255 with regionals)
DL CVG 204 Mainline (507 with regionals)
DL DFW 123 Mainline (187 with regionals)

CO IAH 333 Mainline (508 with regionals)
CO CLE 91 Mainline (281 with regionals)
CO EWR 245 Mainline (351 with regionals)

AA DFW 522 Mainline (776 with regionals)
AA MIA 184 Mainline (263 with regionals)
AA ORD 332 Mainline (490 with regionals)
AA SJU 43 Mainline (134 with regionals)

NW MSP 385 Mainline (489 with regionals)
NW DTW 405 Mainline (521 with regionals)


You get the picture.......
 
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Cargo Airlines

Thu Jan 20, 2000 8:45 am

As far as departures or AC are concerned, FedEx or UPS don't come close to DL in Atlanta. Gates...Are another thing.
On a heavy night, FDX has 120 trunk arrivals in MEM. Not many feeders, but close to 140 in all (hence 140 "gates". UPS at SDF is smaller and more spread out than FedEx, but not by much.
Point is...FedEx only has approx 300 trunk AC and that is more than UPS has...and it behooves both operators to stay away from their respective hubs as much as possible. You can only land so many jets in 2 hours...

If you question the size of either hub (gate-wise), I suggest you look to the north while landing on 27 in Memphis or to the East when on 17L in Louisville. They have more real estate than some cities....
 
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Welcome Aluminum Shower!

Thu Jan 20, 2000 8:52 am

And thanks for a wonderfully meaty post. Was that as much work as it looks?
 
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Miami/Ft Lauderdale One Day Will Be King.

Thu Jan 20, 2000 8:58 am

It is just natural. The day this town becomes real again, it will have the largest hubs in the world. It is just naturally place for flights to:
-Mexico (fast growing airline industry)
-All of the Caribbean (many, many islands & tourists)
-Cuba (someday)
-Central America (still very undeveloped aviation wise)
-South America (Exponential growth expected)
-United States (Still many new flights can be added, there is just no space)
-Canada (Winter birds)
-Europe (To connect Europeans to Latin America, US, Caribbean, still many services to/from Miami to Europe unexplored)
-Africa?? (yes, one day, one day)
-Asia (Room for growth here, since there are no services to Asia from MIA)
-Australia (just for good measure, can't leave my Aussie friends out  )

So, you see, it is destiny. MIA/FLL one day will rule the skies.
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AluminumShower
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RE: Welcome Aluminum Shower!

Thu Jan 20, 2000 9:01 am

Thanks for the greeting....It took about 15 minutes to put together the information. I could have included more cities/carriers, but then we are looking at a whole lot of time. So, I just included only the major cities of the major passenger carriers.

As many have pointed out, FedEx is huge in MEM. But, I wonder why I forgot to put up NW's MEM numbers. That's odd since I used to live there.....
 
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RE: Miami/Ft Lauderdale One Day Will Be King.

Thu Jan 20, 2000 9:02 am

if you were to add mia's numbers and fll together it would be the busiest airport in the world,this arguement is null and void though if nyc and los angeles and washington did the same
 
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But We Have So Much More Growth Potential...

Thu Jan 20, 2000 9:08 am

Than New York (very mature market, I think) LAX (5 airports already), & Washington (come on, which one do you think has more growth potential, MIA/FLL or Washington?)...so we still have long ways to go.
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