bobnwa
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ZED Fare Participants

Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:42 pm

Does anyone have a list of the carriers that belong to the ZED fare program?
 
The Ticketor
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:47 pm

Yep, but only on paper. And it's rather long (luckily!). Do you have a specific carrier in mind?
 
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:58 pm

I had the feeling like every airline signs with other carriers for specific ZED agreements.

Or if one airline has ZED agreements, are they applicable for all airlines having ZED agreements?
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:02 pm

ZED agreements are not universal. As with any interline agreement, the carriers can negotiate and sign deals with other carriers independently. It's not a package deal; although that would be nice.
 
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:17 pm

I have also noticed that while AC has ZED fare agreements with some carriers that carrier's own employees might have an entirely different agreement with AC. (For those not familiar with ZED fares, these are exclusively for airline staff stand-by travel).
 
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:23 pm

I wish my company would have ZED agreements at least with some airlines ...
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bobnwa
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:29 pm

The Ticketor,

I am interested in the following carriers in Europe.
British Airways
TAP
Alitalia
Air France
Iberia

Thanks for help
 
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:37 am

There are two components to a ZED agreement. One is a standard bilateral interline agreement between the airlines in question, and the other is membership in the Zonal Employee Discount (ZED) forum.

Airlines can have an interline agreement with each other (eg. ID90s) without being ZED members - and airlines can both be members of the ZED forum without having a bilateral agreement. BOTH components must be satisfied before ZED ticketing is available for employees of one carrier on the other. Hence, each airline will have a different list of partner carriers that are eligible to ZED ticket on.

The bilateral ZED agreements set the conditions for ZED ticketing, such as which of the ZED groups (Employee/Retiree/Spouse/ChldU21/ChldU24/Chld/SisBro/Parent/Widow/etc..) are eligible for ZED priviledges and at what level (ZL/ZM/ZH) respectively.

The fare tables are then standardized by the ZED forum for constant tariff calculation across carriers. I am enclosing the October 2003 ZED chart below which I believe is the most current one.

ALL FARES IN USD
...............................................................
DISTANCE/. ZL . ZL .. ZM . ZM .. ZH . ZH ..
IN MILES . F BASIS .FARE.. F BASIS .FARE.. F BASIS .FARE..
...............................................................
1-450 . YIDZL1R2 . 13 .. YIDZM1R2 . 19 .. YIDZH1R2 . 25 ..
451-750 . YIDZL2R2 . 16 .. YIDZM2R2 . 25 .. YIDZH2R2 . 36 ..
751-1600 . YIDZL3R2 . 21 .. YIDZM3R2 . 30 .. YIDZH3R2 . 44 ..
1601-3200. YIDZL4R2 . 32 .. YIDZM4R2 . 43 .. YIDZH4R2 . 68 ..
3201-4080. YIDZL5R2 . 37 .. YIDZM5R2 . 50 .. YIDZH5R2 . 89 ..
4081-5000. YIDZL6R2 . 41 .. YIDZM6R2 . 59 .. YIDZH6R2 .105 ..
5001-6100. YIDZL7R2 . 49 .. YIDZM7R2 . 63 .. YIDZH7R2 .113 ..
6101-7100. YIDZL8R2 . 57 .. YIDZM8R2 . 70 .. YIDZH8R2 .126 ..
7101-9000. YIDZL9R2 . 63 .. YIDZM9R2 . 85 .. YIDZH9R2 .150 ..
...............................................................
THE FARE WILL BE CALCULATED ON A PER COUPON BASIS AND NOT ON A
THROUGH FARE BASIS.

There are also other specialized twists on ZED ticketing such as the ZED Positive Space discount program, etc... but the vast majority of the ZED ticketing is now done based on the above tables.

Hope this info helps.
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:47 am

B747-437B,

Thanks for the great explanation. My carrier NWA is just getting into the ZED fare program. It looks as though the fares will be better than ID90 or even ID95.
 
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:50 am

Bobnwa - ZED's are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than any ID90/95 fares on pretty much every route. It also makes it easy to carry "backup" tickets when traveling on days with heavy demand. A single ZED ticket issued is valid for travel on ANY ZED carrier, so it saves the cash outlay on having to buy a handful of interline ID90s.
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:53 am

bmi are part of the ZED scheme. Interesing to know NWA are going to be - not sure what we get with them at the mo.... Be nice to try out one of their DC-9s one of these days......
 
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:01 am

I love ZED!!!  Smile

We're starting to get more into it now, and they are fantastic deals.

Like B747-437B said, you have to be a member of the ZED forum (requirement is that you be a scheduled air carrier) and then sign agreements with each specific airline at a mutually agreed ZED level (Low, Medium or High), which can also vary inside the agreement depending on the relationship (employee/dependents/parents/etc.).

We've just signed an agreement with BMI, which is fantastic, and have pretty good access to a large portion of the world, but the agreements keep on coming which is a good thing. ZED's flexibility is also a major plus.

Happy Travels!  Smile
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:17 am

OH-LGA,
what is the low/medium/high on the zed fares?????
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:42 am

North America:

AA
YX
HP
SW
AC

Central and South America:

VG
AM
MX
TA
CM
LA
AV

Europe:

BA
AF
KL
AZ
IB
TP
SK
LH
OA
LX
EI
VS

Australia and Asia:

QF
CI
CX
TG
NH
BR

Those are most of them , but there are many more.
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:44 am

Here is a list of ZED participants--it might be a bit old, but I got them on a CD from an airline I interviewed with.

AER LINGUS (EI)
AEROMEXICO (AM)
AIR CALIN (SB)
AIR CANADA (AC)
AIR EUROPA (UX)
AIR FRANCE (AF)
AIR INDIA (AI)
AIR MALTA (KM)
AIR TAHITI NUI (TN)
AIR WISCONSIN (AZ)
AIR ZIMBABWE (UM)
ALITALIA (AZ)
ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS (NH)
ALOHA AIRLINES (AQ)
AMERICAN AIRLINES (AA)
ASIANA AIRLINES (OZ)
AUSTRIAN AIRLINES (OS)
AVIACSA (6A)
AVIATECA (GU)
BRITISH AIRWAYS (BA)
BRITISH MIDLAND (BD)
BWIA INTL AIRWAYS (BW)
CATHAY PACIFIC (CX)
CAYMAN AIRWAYS (KX)
CENTRAL MTN AIR LTD (9M)
CHINA AIRLINES (CI)
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES (CO)
CZECH AIRLINES (OK)
DEUTSCHE BA (DI)
EL AL ISRAEL (LY)
EVA AIRWAYS (BR)
FINNAIR (AY)
FIRST AIR (7F)
FRONTIER AIRLINES (F9)
GREAT LAKES AVIATION (ZK)
GRUPO TACA (TA)
GULF AIR (GF)
HK DRAGON AIRLINES (KA)
IBERIA AIRLINES (IB)
ICELANDAIR (FI)
KLM (KL)
KOREAN AIRLINES (KE)
LACSA (LR)
LAN CHILE (LA)
LOT POLISH AIRLINES (LO)
LTU INTL AIRWAYS (LT)
LUFTHANSA AIRLINES (LH)
LUXAIR (LG)
MAERSK AIR (DM)
MALEV HUNGARIAN (MA)
MALMO AVIATION (TF)
MARTINAIR HOLLAND (MP)
MEXICANA AIRLINES (MX)
MIDDLE EAST AIRLINES (ME)
MIDWEST EXPRESS (YX)
OLYMPIC AIRWAYS (OA)
PLUNA AIRLINE (PU)
POLYNESIAN AIRLINES (PH)
QANTAS AIRWAYS (QF)
ROYAL JORDANIAN (RJ)
SCANDINAVIAN (SK)
SKYWARD AVIATION (K9)
SOUTH AFRICAN (SA)
SWISS INTL AIR LINES (LX)
THAI AIRWAYS (TG)
TURKISH AIRLINES (TK)
VARIG AIRLINES (RG)
VIRGIN ATLANTIC (VS)

The fare really depends on your carrier's agreement with the airline you are travelling on and the distance traveled. I've seen ZED fares as low as $12.00 and as high as $120+

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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:06 am

AC has an extensive list of ZED fares on a reciprocally negotiated with other airlines.

The ZED fare levels if I'm not mistaken are lower on fellow Star Alliance carriers, versus non-Star carriers.

Also, each carrier (including Star members) have different eligibility requirements with respect to:

Eligible Spouse (married)
Common-law Spouse
Same-Sex Spouse

Some Airlines 1, 2 or all 3 of the above.
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:08 am

Rumor has it that Alaska Airlines will become a participant in the ZED program as a condition of their expanded codeshare partnership with American Airlines.
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RE: ZED Fare Participants

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:45 am

what is the low/medium/high on the zed fares?????

The best explanation I can give for this is from the GI:ZED partition on AI's systems, so please bear with the formatting and the all caps.


THE ZED FARE STRUCTURE WORKS ON THE PRINCIPLE OF MILEAGE.
VARIOUS SLABS OF MILEAGE ARE PREDETERMINED WHICH ARE CHARGED
TO THE PASSENGERS. THERE ARE 3 LEVELS OF FARES IN ECONOMY VIZ ZL,
ZM AND ZH... LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH. THESE FARE STRUCTURES WITH THE
FARE BASIS ARE GIVEN IN TABLES GI:ZED/FARES

THE FARE WILL BE CALCULATED ON A PER COUPON BASIS AND NOT ON A
THROUGH FARE BASIS. FOR EXAMPLE BOM-FRA-NYC WILL BE CALCULATED
AS BOM-FRA PLUS FRA-NYC.

VARIOUS LEVELS OF FARE VIZ ZL, ZM AND ZH APPLY TO DIFFERENT
CATEGORY OF ELIGIBLE TRAVELER. FOR EXAMPLE AZ OFFERS ZL TO EMPLOYEE
OR SPOUSE OR CHILD UNDER 21 BUT OFFERS ZM TO CHILD OVER 21 OR
TO PARENTS. INDIVIDUAL FARE LEVELS ARE NEGOTIATED BETWEEN AIRLINES
AND ON RECIPROCAL BASIS.
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