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Another 737 Joins JAT

Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:57 am

Yesterday the second Boeing 737-400 landed at Belgrade Airport, joining JAT. I am not sure of the registration.. A third 400-series jet is expected to arrived next month, from the United States.
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:33 pm

JU101 Are these the 737-400's from US Airways? I would assume these aircraft will be used for the replacement of the DC-9's and 727's.
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:24 pm

Yes this is the first of two 734s from US Airways.

The operational JAT Boeing 727s are on lease abroad for a while now. JAT occasially uses the 727s from Aviogenex for flights to Moscow, since there is a shortage of aircraft in that capacity range. This is bound to change with the introduction of two additional 734s.

At this time JAT are attempting to sells the DC-10 and DC-9s. Alternatively, they are offering them on lease abroad, with all the perks.

Furthermore, JAT 733s that are leased to MAT Macedonian Airlines (Z3-AAA and ARF), are now being used for on regularly scheduled JAT flights too.

The registration of the new plane will probably be (YU-AOR).
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:02 pm

Thanks for that information JU101. It's nice to see that JAT will be sticking with Boeing 737's. I am sure that MAT will also replace their leased JAT DC-9's with JAT 737's when they do become available.

It is sad to hear they are selling YU-AMB as it was a delight to see it on Sunday afternoons at Tullamarine Airport during JAT's scheduled flights to Australia. I guess the market has changed since then, hopefully we can see her back here again. Would you say the Boeing 767-300ER is a possible replacement?
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:47 am

Actually MAT has returned the DC-9s to JAT quite a while ago, and replaced them with two JAT 733s. The Macedonian livery is absolutely gorgeous!

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As for the last remaining DC-10, I am not aware of any short term replacement possibilities. It is highly unlikely that JAT resume flights to Australia in the next few years; however, establishing direct flights with Chicago, Toronto, and Montreal are much more feasible. Resumption of the New York flights with Uzbekistan Airways 763 was a huge success.

Once JAT completes its fleet restructuring on the medium-range and regional market, I am sure they will broaden their horizons thereafter. Leasing 763s or 762s is most realistic indeed.

P.S. Adding to the talk of restructuring. All JAT 733s will undergo an overhaul in the economy class cabins, including new seats. The configuration will stay the same, with a total of 126 in economy and business class.
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:33 am

Thats great news.
do you know how the new interrior will be? hopefully leather seats.
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:05 am



Hi!

Today I've read on the internet that JAT charters Aviogenex 727s occassionally for flights Belgrade-Moscow, since JAT doesn't have currently enough 737-400s. Interesting! Once they receive additional 737-400s this should change.

By the way, Aviogenex flies Mon through Fri Belgrade-Bergamo for DHL. Does anyone know whar equipment Aviogenex uses on this route? What is Aviogenex currrent fleet anyway!?
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:47 am

Aviogenex current fleet is

B727-243 Advanced YU-AKM
B727-2L8 Advanced YU-AKD
B727-2L8 Advanced YU-AKH
B737-243 Advanced YU-ANP
they used to have another 737 YU-ANU but dont know what happened to it.

Didnt know they operated for DHL.My guess is that its with a727
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:34 am

The second Aviogenex 732 caught fire while in Nigeria, and was consequently written off. I believe the YU-ANP is on long term lease abroad. The plane was delivered in the late 80s, so its not old at all.

In the meantime, i have some interesting photos. The first is the US Airways 734s in Serbian registration. The second photo is of the YU-AOO being prepared for a new paint job (?).







 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Sun Feb 01, 2004 3:02 am

Great photos.I wonder how long Jat will keep the US Airways colours.Look much better then the new Jat one...lol
Will be great to see the AOO in new cs.I wish they kept the tail blue.
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:28 am

Hey Petar!

I am glad the fleet is starting to take shape. I hope JAT continues adding 734s, since they are truely excellent planes.

BTW, i found some interesting photos taken at Belgrade Airport. Believe it or not, there are pictures of traffic congestion (i.e. a queue of planes waiting for take off). Perhaps constructing an additional runway would be very feasible within a few years.

http://www.myaviation.net

Cheers!
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:18 am

Hi Milan

Thanks for that link.Those photos were excellent.BEG sure looks like a busy airport there..lol
BTW, that webiste was remarkably similar to another great aviation website.Cant think of which one  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:09 pm

Lets just say that it is good competition to airliners.net!

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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:44 pm

Speaking of Macedonian Airlines, I thought they were meant to be purchasing A320's.
I read an article back in 2001, that all the Macedonian Airlines leased 737's were being returned to JAT and they decided with a permanent fleet of A320's..

Whatever happened to that?
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:05 am

I believe a majority (51%?) of MAT is owned by JAT, it's pretty much their subsidiary in Macedonia, as I understand it. So any big decision like that would involve JAT, and Airbuses aren't on their radar screen. I think this is the case, please correct me if I'm wrong. Is MAT a separate company?
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:09 pm

I am quiet sure that JAT has alot to do with Macedonian Airlines. I am not sure whether they own it or part of it.

It's quiet obvious with the names JAT and MAT. It's also quiet obvious that whoever the parent company is, Macedonian Airlines investors arent spending much money on them.

They havent expanded and they do need a new fleet. They have been saying that new routes to London and Paris etc will be introduced and this article in the Airliners (I think September 2001) issue stated that Macedonian Airlines will have their 737's replaced with A320's but werent sure which aircraft of the 320's it was going to be. And I need to add that it stated that they were going lease ATR's from JAT, so they can introduce routes to neighboring countries.
 
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RE: Another 737 Joins JAT

Tue Feb 10, 2004 1:00 am

I do not see MAT expanding much more from this current position. In fact, Macedonia could not do any better than leasing a pair of 733s as it does now. This is a small country with limited resources.

As for connections to Paris and London, I am sure the market is not significant enough to maintain regular service from Skopje. In any case, MAT nor any other European carrier have exploited those possibilities. Besides, Skopje has favorable connections through several cities in the region:

SKP-BEG, JAT Airways 8x (Boeing 737)
SKP-VIE, Austrian Airlines 7x (mostly Airbus 320)
SKP-LJU, Adria Airways 7x (Airbus 320)
SKP-BUD, Malev 6x (mostly Fokker 70)
SKP-BEG, MAT Macedonia Airlines 4x (Boeing 737)
SKP-ZAG, Croatia Airlines 3x (Airbus 319)
SKP-BEG-VIE, MAT Macedonian Airlines 2x (Boeing 737)