applepie81
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The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:31 am

Which UK airports are capable of handling pax flights with the 747 alongside normal operations without causing disruption.

From what i know, they are..........

Belfast International
Birmingham
Bournemouth
Cardiff
East Midlands
Edinburgh
Gatwick
Glasgow
Heathrow
Humberside
Leeds/Bradford
Liverpool
Luton
Manchester
Manston
Newcastle
Prestwick
Stansted
Teesside

......but is there anymore?
 
ushermittwoch
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:34 am

I wish they'd try it in London-City...

That would be fun!
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Arsenal@LHR
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:01 am

If a 747 tried to land at LCY it would end up bulldozing Canary Wharf!
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Airplanepics
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:03 am

Farnborough?


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diesel1
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:41 am

Didn't a 747 go to St Mawgan (Newquay) a little while ago? (Mil, but with civil ops)

Also, although they are exclusively mil, what about Brize Norton and Lakenheath?
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Ant72LBA
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:52 am

Was it Southend that HeavyLift or Air Foyle used to operate out of? Just checked the "London Southend Airport" site and apparently Vulcans, Hercules and Belfasts have operated from its 1605m long runway, is this long enough for a 747 to operate from (LBAs main runway is 2200m)?

Others that spring to mind are Aberdeen, Norwich and Coventry but just thoughts rather than anything definite. Are there any other joint military/civilian runways, in the Scottish Islands for example? Could sites that handle civilian traffic (or have done as I don't know their current status), such as Filton and Woodford, handle a 747?
 
Pe@rson
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:05 am

"Didn't a 747 go to St Mawgan (Newquay) a little while ago?"

I don't know it's precise length, but NQY's runway is pretty long, because of its military connections.
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trekster
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:25 am

N E 1 tried landing the 747 in FS


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Pe@rson
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:39 am

According to a government website, NQY's runway is 2,700 metres in length. "The main runway is long enough to operate most wide-body aircraft without restriction and is the largest at any of the principal airports in the South West." Indeed, its runway length is 347 metres less than MAN's runway 06R/24L (at 3047 metres) and 287 metres less than PIK's runway 13/31 (at 2987 metres). In contrast, it's 95 metres longer than BHX's runway 15/33 (at 2,605 metres) and 346 metres longer than CWL's runway 12/30 (at 2,354 metres).
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XXXX10
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:55 pm

I Doubt the 747 could operate in or out of Southend

the runways is short with (I believe) power lines at one end and a church at the other.

In the 80's they had 737 holiday charters but because of the weight restrictions they had to make a fuel stop on the outbound leg.

Aircraft like the 757 have flown their for maintenance but usually depart empty.

You haven't mentioned Exeter which can handle Concorde so might just be able to handle an empty 747 also possible the isle of man, or Jersey
 
gkirk
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:46 pm

Coventry, Aberdeen, Southend, Isle of Man and Jersey wouldnt be able to handle a 747 at all.
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diesel1
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:07 pm

Some to add... albeit a little off topic

Milldenhall
Filton
Bruntingthorpe
Fairford
Kemble

All definitely visited by 747, though in the case of Bruntingthorpe and Kemble, only on the way to the scrap merchant

I'd agree with XXXX10 about SEN... no chance! CVT is the same, runway too short, ABZ and NWI are possibilities as is EXT...I remember seeing a L1011 there being very very carefully marshalled off the runway...
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applepie81
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:33 pm

How many 747's at one time can these handle then?

Belfast International
Birmingham
Bournemouth
Cardiff
East Midlands
Edinburgh
Gatwick
Glasgow
Heathrow
Humberside
Leeds/Bradford
Liverpool
Luton
Manchester
Manston
Newcastle
Prestwick
Stansted
Teesside
 
speedbirdegjj
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:44 pm

The largest frequent visitors to jersey are 757's operated by the Uk charter carriers to to usaul places PMI/IBZ etc etc.

The largest ever movement was a British Airways L1011 which was used to pick up the pieces after sever fog - (could have done with one twice this week).

Definately no 747 ops though!!
 
Ant72LBA
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:56 pm

I would think that for many smaller airports the limiting factor would be passenger safety in and around the terminals rather than the number of 747s that could actually be parked. Manchester, for example, coped with the sudden influx of traffic for the Champions League Final, I doubt that the facilities at LBA, HUY, MME, etc could handle the thousands of extra passengers a significant number of jumbos would bring.

I guess you'd need to know how many check-in desks there are at each airport, how many passengers per hour they can process and try guesstimating the answer from there (assuming they were all to take-off again at about the same time). The same would go for baggage handling, re-claim etc for the arriving passengers. The Leeds/Bradford site does have a map/plan showing all the stands, taxiways etc, it's under pilot information. Is each stand big enough to hold the largest plane the airport can handle or would a 747 take up two (or more) stands at somewhere like LBA?
 
Pe@rson
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:06 pm

Don't forget that Barra, that major airport, can handle 747s.  Wink/being sarcastic
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XXXX10
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:55 pm

What about Cambridge, they handle big jets for mx
 
EGGD
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RE: The 747 In The UK

Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:11 pm

I disagree completely,

The vast majority of airports could not handle 747 passenger operations along side normal services without causing disruption.

Alot of the airports aren't even commercial airports, don't have terminals or have only small terminals and limited apron space. Sure, its technically possible for a 747 to land and takeoff at these places, but off-loading/boarding passengers, fuelling and taking off are all difficult.

With the exception of those airports who already have, or used to have regular 747 passenger services, very few if any of those airports could operate a service without any disruption, or at all.

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