MAH4546
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Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:38 am

Delta has discontinued non-stop service between Salt Lake City and both Austin and San Antonio. My question is when exactly did this happen? I'm pretty sure it was recent. Anybody knows? Thanks!
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:07 am

This probably came with the recent round of cutbacks that changed SLC from a DL hub to a focus city. SLC has lost a lot of service, with most of the changes taking effect in early January.
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:09 am

This should really come as no surprise to anyone. Delta is slowly turning SLC into an RJ hub. They did the same thing to Phoenix (I'm not sure if it's since resumed) and they've done the same thing to most of Montana. It's quite sad to see, as those were some pretty popular (and albeit full) routes. I was talking to a Delta employee once and they said, "Atlanta simply says we're not filling the planes." I found it odd considering the 738 that pulled taxied out was full.

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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:11 am

the 738 that pulled taxied out was full

...of transfer pax who probably paid $99 for a roundtrip  Laugh out loud
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:20 am

This probably came with the recent round of cutbacks that changed SLC from a DL hub to a focus city. SLC has lost a lot of service, with most of the changes taking effect in early January.

Delta never once announced they are changing SLC from a hub to a focus city, never. They are simply changing the flights around. They actually added more frequencies, though with smaller planes.
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:41 am

One bit of news though, is that 1 of 2 daily SLC-JFK RT. will become a 767-300ER again. This will start for the summer peak season.
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:42 pm

They were cut December 31, 2003. They were discontinued so that people could fly SLC-IAH-AUS/SAT on CO.

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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:45 pm


Fly CO??

What about SLC-DFW-AUS/SAT? I think DL would rather have them fly their own metal!
 
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:21 pm

Bad move on DL's part. When I lived in SAT, I always flew SAT-SLC-PDX or SAT-SLC-SFO. The timing was much better than the dreadful DFW hub. Plus, the service was mainline... now all DL has SAT-DFW is CRJ flights.

Current DL service SAT-PDX shows 3 connecting flights at DFW and one at MSP via NW. SAT-MSP-PDX? Sounds like a ridiculous routing.

SAT-SFO shows lots of flights, almost all of them codeshares: lots of connections through IAH and MEM, only 3 through DFW. It makes very little sense to me why airlines think it's logical for people to fly eastbound to arrive westbound.

SAT-SEA is more on DL metal, but one of the listed flights actually connects at ATL. What a joke.

Just more proof that DL doesn't give a damn about the west coast.
 
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:29 pm

Just more proof that DL doesn't give a damn about the west coast.

Agreed, there was a time when I flew nothing but Delta from Texas to the west coast. Now, I haven't flown them in years. This won't help.

Oh well, more flights on my favorite airline- WN!!
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Tue Feb 03, 2004 2:46 am

Remember when flight 1705 flew from SAT nonstop to AUS, that was really cool! I rode on that flight once, just for the hell of it.
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:00 am

Delta's downsizing of SLC is kind of devastating to an aviation enthusiast, and potentially damaging to the economy of SLC itself.

Delta has been the flagship carrier of the west ever since it bought Western. Southwest is a force but they did not have the extensive western network that DL had. For folks in this area DL was the carrier of choice if you wanted to go anywhere in the west.

Them downsizing SLC is a bad move in my opinion. I see absolutely no reason for it. Even if a majority of pax were connecting pax, geographically SLC is perfect for a western hub, and with skywest feeding pax into it, it really was viable. Face it, DL's not going to get enough space to expand at DEN unless UA goes under, which isnt happening, and we know the story of PHX. SLC is still a DL hub, with some 96 flights per day, but if they cut it much more it will become just a focus city. I respect Delta for having actually kept and used Western's routes, with other carriers like USAir or American were buying western carrier (PSA, Renoair), and then dumping all the routes shortly afterwards. I'd hate to see Delta follow the same path. They know how to serve the west. What bothers me is that that ex-western CEO guy is supposed to be coming to Delta soon, and we thought this would signal an increase of mainline flights to SLC, not the other way around.

Is Leo still with Delta?
 
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RE: Delta Discontinues SLC-SAT/AUS

Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:13 am

The problem with SLC is that it just can't produce good yields. Even worse, SLC doesn't have enough medium sized cities to feed into it. Low volume and low yields are a killer combination (and I mean that in the bad way). There was just an article in the SLC paper that said of all DL's hubs, SLC had been the slowest to rebound since 9/11.

Leo isn't with DL (except on an advisory basis for a few months) anymore and it will be interesting to see if Grinstein has any influence on DL's future strategy. DL is re-evaluating its entire network over the next few months which may have some impact on SLC in the future.

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