mckennasmall
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Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:54 am

I am a member of Air Canada and when we book our trips there is an option when we are getting our stand-by tickets to upgrade to Biz Class. What it is you pay 3X the service charge and if there is an open seat in Biz Class you get it. I want to know is do other Airlines have this deal.
 
An-225
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:03 am

On United, you have an option of going as BP8 (small service charge) vs. lowering your boarding priority to BP10 and not paying anything. I always travel as a BP10, and I always had my first/business whenever it was open.

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mckennasmall
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:06 am

An-225,
so if you pay the fee are you guarantee that you get upgraded. You United guys are lucky you pay nothing.
 
AA7771stClass
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:22 am

At AA, if you worked for the company long enough, domestic Y-class travel is free of charge. You may pay a small fee to fly F (space permitting, my trip from DFW to TPA last November cost about $17 in F). International travel all requires a charge and the charge increases as your cabin of travel becomes more premium. As I said, this is all based on free space in the cabin in which you list, and if there is not any space, they'll look for seats in the cabin below your's etc. until you're on the plane or rolling to the next flight...
 
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:32 am

At UA you can upgrade whether your BP (boarding priority) is 8 or 10 if there is a seat open. No additional fees are added. Also I think it's just international, but if you see that the flight your trying to get on is full and there are lots of standby's, you can opt to buy an ID-75 and raise your BP to 6.

I tried that once but unfortunately the flight was still full (thus forcing me to buy an ID-95 on ANA and flying LHR-Narita and then connect on UA for Narita-SFO).

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mckennasmall
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:02 am

You americian employees are so lucky
 
SegmentKing
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:58 am

AA travel isn't as nice as you think.... you only have 15 categories of space available travel and how you clear is based on time of check-in, not seniority..

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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:07 pm

Check-in time and not seniority is a good thing when your seniority number isn't very high.

At AA, after five years you get to travel domestic coach without a fee. Otherwise, it's something like $8.06 for shorter legs, twice that for the next class of service.
 
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:09 pm

At AA, if you worked for the company long enough, domestic Y-class travel is free of charge.

Minimum five years.

you clear is based on time of check-in, not seniority..

Which is not a bad thing.

 
dairbus
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:33 pm

I believe DL's travel benefits are among the best in the industry.

First of all, you get unlimited free domestic travel at the standard priority which is S3 under their system. You also get an allotment of six S2 priority a year which gets you ahead of the regular S3 non-revs. I use these when the flights are very full or I need to get on.

As for international travel, each employee gets 18 free transoceanic flight days (basically one-way international) each year. Travel to Canada, Mexico, and Central America counts as domestic travel but Europe, Asia, South America, and Hawaii are counted as transoceanic. International travel is free but any fees and taxes are your responsibility and usually payroll deducted.

Employees are allowed to ride in the F or C cabins if they meet the dress code which is basically business casual; no jeans, tennis shoes, t-shirts, etc. The dress code for coach is more relaxed which is a bonus for employees who travel with their kids or don't want to dress up for any reason.

If you meet the dress code, then you are seated in the forward cabin if seats are available. Otherwise you ride in coach or not at all if the flight is full. They clear employees depending on their standby priority and then their employment date. For example, they clear S2's before S3's and then they are organized by hire date inside each priority. Basically seniority rules unless someone else uses a higher priority than yours. There are also penalties if you go over your allotment or of you sue an unauthorized priority.

I hope for others to share their companies procedures.
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:43 pm

At WN, unlimited space A travel is free from day one =)

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mckennasmall
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:09 pm

I am confused with Delta.What is with Transoceanic. So you only get 18 flights your whole carrier.
 
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:59 pm

Mckennasmall, to clarify about Delta, only your domestic travel is free and unlimited. If you travel to any transoceanic destinations, you are charged a transoceanic flight day from your free yearly allotment of 18. This is only for flights to Europe, Japan, and South America. All other destinations, international or not, are considered part of the domestic system as far as employee travel goes.

For example, if you travel to London from Atlanta, you are charged one transoceanic flight day each way. This is deducted from your allotment of 18 leaving you 16. This allotment, as well as your S2 priority days are renewed every year on your anniversary or hire date. If you use up all 18 transoceanic days within a year, then you get charged I believe $150 for each additional day. I have been with the company for almost six years and I have never used all 18 days. The employee however is responsible for all departure taxes and user fees from international destinations and these are either paid at the airport before boarding or payroll deducted by the pass bureau.

I hope this clears things up. Take care.

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mckennasmall
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:06 pm

That clears it up,
so what I am getting is you get 18 days, when you travel in Biz attire and it is open you should get it. If you use all 18 days you pay 150 extra for each day.


Still confused how does this work for family members and can you save your unused days.
 
mckennasmall
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:47 pm

So is this the same for many airline employees in USA
 
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:35 pm

Us Airways/Us Airways Express/Us Airways Shuttle Employees fly free year round within the united states and Canada, The Caribbean and trans-Atlantic we just pay the taxes plus we get 8 companion passes a year which lets our friends fly at a discounted rate. Upgrades to first class are 0nly $30 each way for Canada, Caribbean, and U.S, Europe I think is a little bit more

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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:25 am

Mesaba has to be the worst. You can fly free, dress requirements of course, only on mesaba. On pinnacle and mainline, you pay. Buddy passes are only on Mesaba, and after that it is a charge (Hefty one) to fly pinnacle or mainline. This needs to change fast.

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dairbus
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:10 pm

Mckennasmall

With DL, the transoceanic flight days and S2 priorities do not roll over. You have to use them or lose them by your anniversary date which is when you get another full allotment.

Family members is a little more complicated. Basically travel benefits extend to the employee, his/her spouse, and any dependent children. Non-dependent children can still travel but have to buy a yield fare ticket which is a heavily discounted fare.

The travel priorities and allotments also change for the parents if the employee is married or not. If you are married, your parents loose their S2 priority days and their transoceanic days. They can still travel international but have to pay $150 or $75 each way. They also have to travel under an S3B priority which is lower than the regular S3.

If you are not married, you have the option of adding a travel companion who can be a sibling, girlfriend, etc. They have the same travel priorities as the employee but need to buy a yield fare ticket when they travel. You also get eight Friends and Family passes to give to whoever you want which allows them to purchase a yield fare ticket but they have to travel as S4's which is the lowest priority.

If you have any more questions I will be happy to answer them.

Regards

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mckennasmall
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:17 pm

It seems Delta's got a pretty good deal, unless you are extended family member. Is there any deal if a member of your extended family flies with you unless the only way for them to fly is with you. How about kids traveling by themselves and how old do they have to be to get J or F by themselves. For me it was 13. How about regional carriers like Delta Express.
 
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RE: Calling All Airline Employees

Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:33 pm

I love my DL benefits....I do believe they're the best in the sky. I've never paid a cent to fly, and I've been in First Class 85% of the time...you just have to know how to weasel the system.

Also, for any airline, dressing up works real well. I always wear a suit and tie, and oftentimes, the ticket agents will notice me, and wait till the 15 min mark before pushback, so if there's a few no-shows in First, theyll cancel their reservation and hand it right to me....nice work huh?

Go Delta......they'd better not start charging me for my first seat!
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