Birdwatching
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Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:34 pm

I have a question, especially to airport baggage workers:

I will fly JFK-KEF-FRA on Icelandair in late April, and I will carry a Personal Computer tower in my checked luggage. (Hard sided suitcase). I will have clothes around it to protect it. The hard drive will be removed, I will carry it in the cabin, just to be safe.

Now here is the important part: I have done this twice without problems, BOTH after 9/11.

Now the question: I know that they scan the checked luggage. When they see my suitcase on the screen, what will they do? Will they think it is a bomb? Will they open the suitcase to check?
As I said, I've done it 2x without problems, about 6 months ago, both times on Lufthansa JFK-FRA and around. But maybe securities has increased since then?

Thanks for any info!
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:37 pm

In the US, the TSA opens my stuff all the time.

But, you should not carry computer in checked luggate. It should be carried on they say.

If they think it is something 'bad' (not necessarily a bomb), they will open it up and dig into things.
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:41 pm

So you say I should carry my computer on? Will they let me through the check with that? With so many sharp metal parts inside? I dont know...
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:48 pm

Oh, it'll be fine to check the tower. B4real, he's talking about a full-size computer tower, not a laptop. I wouldn't worry Birdwatching, I'm sure you'll be fine.  Smile
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:53 pm

If you look at an x-ray of a computer you will see all wires and whatnot. To a scanner this could be a bomb. Now if you have an apple laptop it has a key board that has a battery(?) and airport card that goes under the keyboard. If you just open it and have a quick look you wont see whets under the keyboard. It doesn't even have to be a bomb, a knife, blade of some sort, acid, etc. If time wasn't a matter I would have them had search each checked and carry on bag.
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B4REAL
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:55 pm

Well, I have seen the insides of baggage handling systems, and if it is a desktop, yes, I'd carry it on.

I would think a normal desktop would fit in an overhead bin or underneath a seat. It would much more likley get less banged up.

Worse comes to worse, rig up a box with styrofoam packaging (like what you bought the computer in) and ship it to your destination.
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:50 pm

Different airline have slightly differet policy of what they let you carry on, on top of security rules. Why not just give them a call? Be sure to note the full name of the person you speak to, an employee number doesn't hurt. Airlines rules are always changing and if they give you bad information, at least you will be compensated if you can quote the exact person who gave you the bad information.

If checked in, there is always the possibility that they will open it to inspect it.
 
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:48 am

So it will be no problem to get a computer tower through the security checkpoint? Has anyone ever done it before? I'm talking computer, not laptop.
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:01 am

Why you would travel with an entire tower is something I don't understand. That is insane! If you must have it just take it to FedEx and have it shipped. It will be safe and insured.
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:06 am

I suppose TSA's job is to assume everything is a bomb until proved otherwise, so you shouldn't have any problems (unless it is actually a bomb).
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:45 pm

Go the the TSA website and call them or e-mail them and ask them what is allowed through and then call the airline and ask them what is allowed on.
 
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:01 am

I took my pc (tower in my checked luggage) from Buenos Aires to Barcelona (YES!); no problems, except when I met my baggage at BCN, to find the case didn't resist the trip.

I almost had to rebuild it.

I guess the guys at the airports (BUE-MAD-BCN) didn't treat the baggage nicely, as always, the difference this time was a pc in on of the bags. Everything worked find, but the case had to be replaced, its sides didn't match anymore (understand?).
 
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:46 am

I recently carried my full size Sony PC tower (all 30lbs of it) from AUS-IAH-PDX carry on in a roller suitcase. No Problem, left the Hard Drive in and everything. Just like a really big laptop.
 
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:51 am

If you are taking something like a computer, ship it FedEx, DHL, Airborne or UPS. If it is damaged by airline baggage handlers, there is very limited liability. With services such as FedEx and UPS, there is guaranteed delivery and the item will be insured. For something as valuable as a computer, it is clearly worth the money.
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:13 am

You can have your luggage checked as FRAGILE. Same price, but usually better treatment.

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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:25 am

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the main focus of the new scanners was organic material? (Targeting the actual explosives, not the electrical devices).

I have checked several suitcases full of cables and low-value electronics, and when I take a carry-on, my laptop case has no fewer than 10 cables and 3 other electronic devices. Not once has my carry-on luggage been hand inspected, and only a couple of times have I had the TSA leave their "sticker" on my checked bag.

That said, I would not check a desktop computer for the previous reasons someone else stated. Airline liability limits are low. Plus, if you ship via UPS/FedEx etc., you can insure it, and those shipping companies routinely ship computers. Mark it fragile and send it along ahead of you if that is possible. If not, squeeze it into a carry-on case, and drag it along.
 
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RE: Will They Think Computer Is Bomb?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:15 pm

But how about the sharp object issue?
Even if a computer case in the hand luggage is found not to be a bomb, will they let me carry it on with all that stuff in it? I know that some terrorists out there would manage to hijack an airplane with a sound card... seriously.
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