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AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:34 am

What fleet types have gotten the new all blue seat with head rests in coach? When will the upgrade be done? I has made the AA experience slightly inconsistent.

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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:43 am

The new seats were installed on AA's MD-80 and 767 fleet in 1999 and 2000. The Fokkers never got the new seats, although some got new interior finishes and carpeting before the retirement of the fleet was announced. The 777s and 737s were delivered with the new seats. I think some of the 727s also got the new seats.

Supposedly, the A300s and 757s will get the new seats as they are brought in for reconfiguration to the higher-density seating (i.e., no MRTC), but I don't know if that is certain.

I'm assuming that the TWA MD-80s will get the new seats when they go in for C-checks.
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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:29 am

The reconfiguration of the 757's are just about complete, and they have not been refitted with the new seats. They are only adding back the two rows of seats, and adjusting the overhead service units. These planes are being turned around in a 24-hour period. Uncertain when the 75's will get their interiors refurbished.
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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:56 am

This is becoming an increasingly interesting question, since the interiors are becoming increasingly non-standard with the TWA aircraft, and some other tweakings within AA's fleet.

As mentioned above, all 737 and 777 aircraft were delivered with the new interior/seats. All of the 3-class A300s have been reconfigured to 2-class, and in the process, got new interiors but not new seats. They just got new seat covers to match the new interior. The remaining A300s and all 757 aircraft are slowly getting new seat covers, but not new seats. This process is happening as needed or during C-checks, so it will be some time before all 757s and A300s have new seat covers.

AA took delivery of new 757 aircraft last year. They all feature the new interiors, but not new seats, nor the new seat covers. Consequently, I have been on some older 757s that have new interiors, too, but not new seat covers. I am not sure why this is. Some feature new bulkhead covers and carpeting, while the sidewalls remain the same. Some have new laminates on them, too, and some have newly refurbished lavatories. I have a question into our employee questions and answers department through flight service, hopefully they can give more details.

The TWA 757s will remain as is until retired in 2007. A couple of things are happening to the TWA MD-80s as they are brought over to the AA operating certificate. Some aircraft are getting the typical first class seat found in AA 80s, some are keeping their seats and getting new seat covers. Same goes for coach. Some aircraft are getting typical AA 80 seats, and others are just getting new seat covers. This has become confusing to some pax as the AA seats have the power ports, but the TWA aircraft are not equipped to support power ports, at least not yet. The company said a while back they are evaluating whether or not to install, or at least make operational, power ports on the TWA MD-80s.

So long story short there are four possible interiors you could encounter on a 757, four possible interiors on the MD-80 and two on the A300.

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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:18 am

From what I remember when I started this topic a few months ago, a user said that The A300s and 757s will get new seat covers come later this year. I flew a 757 in November with old seat covers, but new bulkheads, overheads, and carpeting. A nice touch, but I like the new seats  Smile AA change your old seat covers soon! They are filthy!
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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:32 pm

What about the A300's? Weren't they to be reconfigured? Or was that several years ago?

Excuse this off-topic question, but how many UA 772ERs have been reconfigured thus far to allow more room throughout coach, like AA's 772ERs? Does UA plan to reconfigure all of their 772ERs?

I also could have sworn that AA was going to configure the TWA 757s, but that probably was a false comment.

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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:06 pm

UA plans to place E+ on their entire fleet; they're not putting in a MRTC like product.
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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:27 pm

I checked with a friend of mine who flies for AA. The 727s never got new seats, just new seat covers. But that raises a couple of questions.

First, when AA started installing new seats in 1999, why did the 727s get new seat covers, but not the Fokkers? AA had slated the 727 fleet for retirement in 2004, which was moved up to 2002 after September 11th. The Fokker fleet was scheduled to fly at least another 10 years as of 1999.

Second, why didn't AA put the new seats in the 757s in 1999, and why don't they now? I understand that the Fokkers fly mostly short to medium-haul, and the 727s was flying mostly medium-haul in the last few years of service. But the 757s have been flying mostly long-haul, including transcon flights.

And my friend has flown more than a few redeyes in the 757. Even with moving the 757 fleet into leisure markets, they will still fly a lot of long flights, including ORD-SJU, BOS-LAS, and New York City to the ski resorts.

The design of the new seats isn't a problem, since they were installed before MRTC started in 2000.

I've always thought of the 757 as a premium airplane, since it has IFE and galleys capable of more elaborate in-flight meal service. So not installing the new seats never made sense.
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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Thu Feb 05, 2004 6:05 pm


Some, not all, of the 727s got new interiors, including new seats, as evidenced by the picture below. That probably occurred out of necessity. With an interior that was 25+ years old, they needed to be replaced. The 727 retired earlier than anticipated, making the new interiors seem unnecessary.

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The F100s didn't get new interiors because they were relatively new airplanes. The seats were still in good condition, and AA had a sufficient supply of replacements to keep the old interior looking new. That is the reason why the 757s are getting new seat covers. The old pattern was actually becoming more expensive to produce than the new design. When AA set out to develop new interiors for all its aircraft, they did so to coincide with the introduction of the 738 and 772. First on the list were the MD-80s, then the 767s. AA had actually placed orders for some F100s, and took delivery of new interiors for 15 F100s before they canceled that order post 9/11. Next on the list were the 757s and then A300s.

AA would like to add new seats to the 757, but hasn't had the money to design them post 9/11. AA actually develops the seats in conjunction with world renowned seat makers like Ricaro. Once the seat is designed, it needs to be certified by the FAA. It's a lengthy and costly project, especially when you are talking about nearly 24,000 seats.

Thrust... the only reconfiguring of TWA's 757s are to take them back to standard pitch, removing "more room throughout coach." Since the aircraft are on lease until 2007, AA chose to keep the interiors as is since they, too, are relatively new aircraft.
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RE: AA Interiors Refurbished Yet?

Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:28 am

I really like the f100's new interiors, i've been on a few that were re-seated pre 9/11  Smile Gonna miss working on the f100's hope they find a nice home with jetsgo  Smile

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