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How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:21 am

United dropped EWR > LHR a few months ago. How is United doing on it's JFK>LHR and JFK>NRT routes? These are pretty competitive and don't seem to fit into United's overall structure.

Does anyone have any info or insight into this?

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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:23 am

I don't know how they're doing, but it wouldn't surprise me if these routes are eventually dropped. As you say, "focus cities" just don't seem to fit into UA's plan anymore. They seem to be focusing on strengthening their hubs these days (like cutting service at MIA).

Unless these flights are wildly profitable, I would think their respective slots could be put to better use elsewhere.



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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:26 am

Remember, though, that New York is a city of 8-9 million people... there is high demand for O&D traffic as stated in a recent thread about DL's international routes.

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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:27 am

JFK is more a spoke from the NRT hub, plus were talking New York to Tokyo here..many people fly this route. As for LHR, well if UA cant make NYC-London work, theyve got little chance for long term survival.
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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:29 am

I heard a little while ago the double daily JFK-LHR flights are doing fine. I heard that ridership is up after we cut EWR-LHR. (from a posting on United's intranet)

This route doesn't make too much sense at first glance but when you think about it... other then UA, no Star Alliance carrier flies between these two VERY IMPORTANT cities. If one is doing business in NY and needs to get to London, what Star Carrier can get you there in a hurry? Plus there is a bit of passenger feed from our transcons as well as feed from British Midland at Heathrow.

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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:29 am

Why doesn't United make JFK a hub?
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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:31 am

Why doesn't United make JFK a hub?

Because an already-established hub is right down the road at IAD. Plus, it would be hard to signifcantly increase presence at JFK with B6, AA, and DL controlling the scene there.



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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:32 am

United at this point, has no chance of making JFK a hub. AA, B6, and DL are all strong, and expanding at JFK. No room for UA.
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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:25 pm

I really hope that a Star carrier will continue on this most important intercont route in the world.
 
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RE: How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?

Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:47 pm

Flew JFK-LHR on UA 777 in december, the flight was full. As was LHR-ORD outbound.

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