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CO Hubs

Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:24 pm

Correct me if i am wrong but does CO only have EWR and IAH as international gateway hubs? What abt something along the west coast like SFO/LAX? Maybe even HNL since they hv Continental Micronesia?

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RE: CO Hubs

Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:34 pm

With their 777's, they can fly direct from EWR or IAH. They do have one flight a day from HNL-GUM.
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RE: CO Hubs

Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:37 pm

CO does operate internation from CLE which is also a Hub of theirs.
Its kind of hard to look at but once you find cleveland youll see that they have a couple of international routes from there

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RE: CO Hubs

Tue Feb 10, 2004 9:56 pm

EWR IAH CLE GUM Nothing WestCoast after leaving DEN
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RE: CO Hubs

Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:00 am

there's also CO connection, with some extremely short int'l hops ex-Florida

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RE: CO Hubs

Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:07 am

CO would love to have a major hub back in Denver... would complement their route system beautifully, and if the opportunity were to present itself in the future (i.e. UA fails or pulls out of DIA, industry improves, CO's balance sheet improves), it could happen. Longshot, but it could hapen.
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RE: CO Hubs

Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:01 am

I think that DEN and IAH would be redundant unless they decided to restructure their route map to make each hub have its own niche.

If they were to obtain DEN somehow, they could take all of the IAH domestic routes (except for a few trunk routes, such as IAH-LAX, IAH-SFO, etc.) and move them to DEN. Then CO could expand upon DEN as a West Coast hub and leave IAH for all of their Latin/South American routes - almost make it like a MIA for AA. There are plenty of cities in Latin/South America that CO could serve out of IAH that they do not at the moment - Cali, Medellin, EZE (which they could feed from the entire US), Santiago, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Bolivia.

They could expand DEN to serve the smaller West Coast cities that IAH does now (OAK, PSP, RNO, etc.) and start new services to smaller cities (MRY, SBA, Eugene, Spokane, Boise, BFD, FAT).

It would be an excellent addition as long as they manage the routes correctly.
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RE: CO Hubs

Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:11 am

CO in the late 1980s had plans to make Seattle their Gateway to the Pacific, they launched a Seattle-Tokyo flight and according to an annual report from 1990 they had intentions of launching routes to Seoul, Nagoya etc from Seattle.

However CO sold their Seattle-Tokyo route to AA in 1991 or 1992 because of economic woes, AA has since dropped the route.

Also from the late '70s to mid 1990s CO had a decent operation out of Honolulu, in 1992 they had flights from Honolulu to..

Auckland, Brisbane, Cairns, Guam, Houston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Vancouver, Denver , Houston, Tokyo, Melbourne, Sydney, Manila and their "Island hopper".
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RE: CO Hubs

Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:24 am

The Continental hub in Cleveland has the following international flights:

CO 66 (752 - n/s, seasonal schedule changes)

CO 67 (752 - n/s, seasonal schedule changes)

CO 2730 (ER3 - n/s, daily)
CO 2007 (ER3 - n/s, x Sat)
CO 2052 (ER3 - n/s, x Sat)
CO 2795 (ER3 - n/s, x Sat)
CO 2415 (ER3 - n/s, Saturday only)

CO 2815 (ER3 - n/s, x Sat)
CO 2217 (ER3 - n/s, x Sun)
CO 2214 (ER3 - n/s, x Sat/Sun)
CO 2876 (ER3 - n/s, x Sun)
CO 2868 (ER3 - n/s, Sunday only)

CO 2044 (ERJ - n/s, x Sun)
CO 2087 (ERJ - n/s, x Sat)
CO 2948 (ER3 - n/s, daily)

CO 2283 (ERJ - n/s, x Sat)
CO 2907 (ERJ - n/s, daily)
CO 3238 (ER3 - n/s, x Sun)

CO 664 (739 - 1 stop, IAH, x Sat/Sun)
CO 1460 (738 - n/s, Saturday)

CO 1109 (738 - n/s, Saturday only)

There are also international flights by Air Canada Jazz:

AC 7901 (DH1 - n/s, x Sun)
AC 7903 (DH1 - n/s, x Sun)
AC 7905 (DH1 - n/s, x Sat)
AC 7907 (DH1 - n/s, daily)

AC 7902 (DH1 - n/s, x Sun)
AC 7904 (DH1 - n/s, x Sat)
AC 7906 (DH1 - n/s, daily)
AC 7908 (DH1 - n/s, x Sat)

There are also international flights by USA3000 Airlines:

GWY 404 (A320 - n/s, Monday only)
GWY 446 (A320 - n/s, Friday only)
GWY 412 (A320 - n/s, Saturday only)

GWY 405 (A320 - n/s, Monday only)
GWY 447 (A320 - n/s, Friday only)
GWY 413 (A320 - n/s, Saturday only)

There you go, Continental's Cleveland hub, plus a little more!

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RE: CO Hubs

Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:27 am

Don't forget about their massive upstate New York hub operations at ALB and SYR after folding Commutair into Continental Connection! =P
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RE: CO Hubs

Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:48 am

Redngold- Wouldn't it be nice to see more CO or any international airline have more international flights out of CLE?
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RE: CO Hubs

Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:24 pm

Ramprat, CO also can fly nonstop to Europe from IAD with the 767-400ER. I saw a photo actually the other day of a CO 764ER departing from AMS to IAD. Also, the 762ER's range is plenty capable of operating non-stop to Europe from IAD. But I guess if you want to talk about HKG or NRT, Israel, or any other Mid-East or Far East country, then, yes, the 777 is what enables Continental to serve nonstop international flights of their structure. Just pointing out the 767 alone is enough to fill much of CO's international operations except to Asia. It is true that CO serves some of the longest routes in the world.
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RE: CO Hubs

Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:35 pm

CO does not plan on having hub in DEN it would be to much competiton with UA and F9. they don't need that
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