gr8slvrflt
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New Theory On Hindenburg Disaster

Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:16 pm

What I love most about history is that it changes so much. Although many people think the Hindenburg was the victim of sabotage (encouraged by the movie), for decades most experts accepted the theory that leaking hydrogen was ignited by static electricity (St. Elmo's fire) causing the well known conflagration.

PBS aired a show tonight focusing on a new investigation into the causes of the crash. Examination of both new and old evidence has shown that the actual cause had nothing to do with hydrogen! The outer covering of the Zeppelin was treated with a dope containing a veritable cocktail of highly explosive chemicals mixed with very flammable aluminum powder. Static discharge from the surrounding atmosphere amid thunderstorms ignited the fabric covering near the top fin and spread very quickly. The intense heat caused the hydrogen to expand and the gas cells to burst. Even if the Hindenburg had been filled with inert helium it still would have burned and crashed!!

Similar ventures into unknown technological areas led to the Titanic (brittle steel) and Comet (metal fatigue under recurring pressurization cycles) disasters. The public's fear of hydrogen after the Hindenburg explosion has since inhibited it's use in aircraft and automobiles. Maybe its time to rethink things.

I know this has nothing to do with IFE or Northwest's fleet plans but I think it is fascinating nonetheless.
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Birdwatching
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RE: New Theory On Hindenburg Disaster

Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:34 pm

That is stupid.
When there is already highly flammable Hydrogen inside, why would they put a highly explosive stuff on the outside?
Just because you saw that one TV show that does not mean history changes now.

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gr8slvrflt
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RE: New Theory On Hindenburg Disaster

Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:45 pm

They weren't stupid. The Hindenburg was state-of-the-art engineering at the time but they did not realize all the properties of the materials they were using. Commercial aviation today is the product of trial and error. There have been countless accidents that have resulted in improved methods and designs. History changes when we uncover the truth. I watched the moon landing on live TV and the flag did not wave....I think you're confusing that event with an MTV commerical.
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Dalmd88
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RE: New Theory On Hindenburg Disaster

Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:55 pm

This theory was published in Air&Space mag quite a few years ago. The researchers had put the black and white photos through a colorization process and then analyized the temp of the flames. The temps measured were way too low for Hydrogen. They then began researching the fabric and found that the Zepplin people had know about the high flamablity of the skin.

Even though this is the most likely true cause most people will still say it was due to the Hydrogen gas.
 
na
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RE: New Theory On Hindenburg Disaster

Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:24 pm

I also read about this a few years back already. But is it possible to say after such a long time: this was the cause, for 100%? I think the Hindenburg disaster will forever remain a mystery like TWA800.
 
concordeboac
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RE: New Theory On Hindenburg Disaster

Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:24 pm

Birdwatching:

Your reply makes no sense whatsoever, the fact they have highly flammable hydrodgen on the inside actually increases the likelihood of other materials also being highly combustible, it demonstrates either a lack of care, or more likely a lack on knowledge of the dangers of highly flammable substances.

History does change, or more precisely peoples understanding of past events/theories changes, I shall use the example of people believing the world is flat, although totally unrelated and overused, science only develops with time and experience, with the development of science comes new understanding of things from the past proving this theory totally and utterly wrong.

The disaster of the Hindenberg is a perfect example of this and I believe the scientists, not theories/guesses/enthusiasts when they say this is the most likely, I didn't say definitive, explanation of the events on that tragic day.
 
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RE: New Theory On Hindenburg Disaster

Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:32 pm

Nova did a special on this a while back.

The hydrogen would have vented to the atmosphere immediately after each of the cells where busted. The fire lasted much longer then that.

Also they used a different formula of dope for the fabric. Most silver coats even to this day use aluminum powder in them. In the Hindenburg Iron was added to the mix.

Aluminum and Iron BTW are the main fuel ingredients in the Solid Rocket Boosters used on the space shuttle.
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