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Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:51 pm

I realize that this would be a design that would have weight issues, but did Embraer actually study a 30 seat version?
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flyingbronco05
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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:58 pm

It's called the ERJ 135 I believe.

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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:00 am

The 135 is designed for 37 passengers. I'm wondering about a 30 seat variant.
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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:03 am

I know the 135 is designed for 37, but a plane seating 30 would be too close in comparison to the 135 I believe. I'm sure they would have built one if there was a market for it.

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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:06 am

True, but that's also the case between the 140 and 145. Although the 140 was for a more "political reason".
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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:09 am

Doesn't make sense -- a 30-seat variant will only reduce capacity and reduce trip-costs negligibly. The 135 is already losing popularity because airlines are figuring out it provides little cost benefit over a 145 but with much reduced revenue potential.
 
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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:39 am

I realize that today it wouldn't make sense.

What I am wondering is if Embraer ever did study a 30 seat variant in the history of the 13X/14X program. Not if they are.
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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:41 am

Didn't they study something like a CBA-123, or was that a turboprop?

I seem to remember that that was a pusher t-prop....
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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:21 am

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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Thu Feb 12, 2004 3:40 am

I seem to recall that some of the very early design proposals were for something that essentially looked just like a 120, with the jet engines mounted forward and above the wings (basically in the same place the 120's engines are now). But I don't think anyone expressed interest in it.

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RE: Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?

Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:50 pm

They do make a 30 seater. The ERJ-135. The best part, it's easy to replace on EMB-120 routes. The 135 allows incremental route growth while providing essentially the same cabin. A 30 seat aircraft which made sense 10 years ago, now would typically demand a 37 seater. Just like the transition from 19 seaters to 30 seaters.

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