crberkley
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747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:56 am

I heard that there are talks about the National Forrest Service picking up a couple of used 747-200's and converting them in to fire fighting planes. Does anyone have any info on this story??
 
LEARJET23
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RE: 747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:08 am

Totally ridiculous! A 747 could never remotely maneuver like a fire ship! Too big and not stressed for this.
 
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yyz717
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RE: 747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:15 am

Correct. A 747 and a DC-10 airframe have been suggested as a test bed.

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RE: 747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:16 am

Learjet23

Ridiculous yes. But the blue ribbon commission on guaranteeing that Congress never again has to be bombarded with questions arising from shocking video of wings coming off of C-130s (okay that's not the REAL name of the commission) has pretty well decided that there will be no more use of retired military planes.

If they hold any influence we are more likely to see brand-new, purpose-built B-737 air tankers. Unless we need to curry more political favor with Europe than Seattle, in which case the new air tankers might be from Airbus.


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crberkley
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RE: 747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:18 am

The idea of seeing a 747 in this type of capacity is a bit bizarre, I cant imagine this is even remotely feasible.
 
jutes85
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RE: 747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:21 am

Still, if you fill the 747 with water, or atleast half of it, would it be able to takeoff?
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crberkley
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RE: 747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:25 am

I remember hearing that only a portion of the aircraft would be filled with water, and another portion filled with the fire retardant chemicals. Regardless, that has to be a tremendous amount of weight. However, on the other hand there would not be any cargo or pax on board...So I do not know what the weight situation would be like..
 
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RE: 747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:34 am

Omni Air International is already flying a DC-10 as a testbed. It has done at least one water drop to date. Here is a pic of it in the database, with the tank on the belly
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crberkley
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RE: 747-200 For Fire Fighting

Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:09 am

Spacepope,

thanks for the pic...It is still kind of weird to see such a large bird involved as a fire ship.

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