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LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:30 am

Need a little help gang.

I'm planning a trip to PEK in march,normally i'd choose BA or VS,however BA's schedule is no good for me and VS don't fly to PEK.That leaves me to choose between LH and SK.

From experience,which is the better of the 2?

Thanks for any advise.


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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:35 am

I personally have not flown SK at all, but I know that business in LH is great! Amazing service, and wonderful food. Seat pitch is good, and so is IFE. From what I have heard, SK is very nice too, but I am not sure...sorry, and happy flying!

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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:55 am

The current seat pitch is 48' on LH and 50' on SK in business. I find that SK's seats are rather comfortable. I have never traveled LH business, only first, and their service was impeccable, and I would expect the same in business as well, however FRA is delay prone which can be a hassle. Overall the two products very similar.
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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:50 am

Hi Marc,

I haven't flown both LH and SK yet, but I would choose the option to fly via FRA! Why? For variation in the logbook.

LH is codesharing the FRA-PEK flight with CA (both operate one daily flight).

I would go up on the B744 of LH (17h25-8h30) and come back with the CA B744 (14h15-18h20). No chance to be 2 times on the same LH B744 also! Big grin

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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:52 am

Definitely SK. One of the best airline to fly long-haul.
Plus - they always loose my luggage at FRA  Big grin
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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:22 am

SAS has PTV's in every seat of the A340 you would be flying, while Lufthansa does not have PTV's. I am referring to the seats in coach which I assume "C" class stands for? I once flew SAS longhaul from ORD-WAW with a stop in ARN, and the serivce was wonderfull. The food was good, plenty of snacks and drinks, and the flight attendents were very friendly.
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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:59 am

C Class is one of the most common fare classes for Business Class. SAS is well known for having one of the best business classes in the world for long-haul - plus they are only a two-class airline - so you are getting their best product! I believe, they do however have an Economy Plus type section on some long-haul services.
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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:34 pm

I looked at Expedia, and I found an unlikely option: Turkish Airlines.

They leave from LHR. The plane will be an Airbus A310. Its not a long flight to BA), Turkey">IST. Then you get on an A340 to PEK. Thats a nine hour flight.

Trip total for the dates I selected: $3531.57. (C-Class)
Trip total on AF: $4656.00. (C-Class)
Trip total on BA: $5164.00. (C-Class)


Here's one about C-Class.

My family and I had the pleasure of flying Turkish Airlines business class from Singapore to Instanbul and then through to Sarajevo last week. We flew on a new Airbus 340 from Singapore and then were put up by the airline in Instanbul in a 5 star hotel overnight to connect with our flight to Sarajevo the next day. The service was very good both on board and at check in. Our luggage arrived safely at all our destinations and staff were friendly and efficient. Catering from Singapore was a bit disappointing, but for the remainder of the trip and sectors the food and wine was excellent. Staff on the Istanbul-Sarajevo sector were very friendly and helpful. Check in at Istanbul was a breeze allowing for advanced check-in. The Singapore staff of Turkish Airlines were outstanding in their product knowledge and service and genuinely helpful. There was an excellent personal touch to the service. Their upgrade offer was excellent value and my family will now change our preferences to Turkish Airlines for future travel. THY comes highly recommended as it is truly a world class airline in the same league as SQ or LH.

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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:06 pm

Unless you are going to get the new sleeper seats in LH J, I will go with SK. SAS J seems to be a better product with better food... LH old J seems a bit tight and the service is not as good as SK. SK's buffet station looks really nice and CPH is a really convenient airport for transfer.

About TK, I read about it on the Japanese airline magazine. The A340s look okay in J... The seats are sleeper style with 54" of legroom, a width of 21", and a recline of 140 Degrees; compared to SAS's 50" of legroom, a width of 20.4", and a recline of 110 degrees, and LH's 48 inches of legroom, a width of 20" and a recline of 90 Degrees.

The food seems to serve in varied courses and there is a salad bowl service (salad tossed on the side); however, economy looks rather plain.

Anyway, I hope this information will help...

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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:09 pm

If LH is flying their new A 340-600s on the PEK route then its worth it in J class BUT if not then choose SAS-SK A 343s that fly the route as their J class product is way better than LHs on all of its long haul aircraft with exception to their new A 346s!!!
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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 7:25 pm

I agree, since you´ll be flying in March the chances of getting the new LH C-Class product on a B744 are still VERY low so SK might be the better choice.

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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 7:39 pm

I've not tried LH C-class, only LH Y, SK C, Y+ and Y. The service is good in all three classes in SK longhaul, SK Y is far better than LH Y, even if I've had the exact same seat on the same type of aircraft. Service with LH was almost nonexistent.
SAS C-class is very good, although the seatpich could be better. Good service, good food and wine, and the little self-service bar for drinks and snacks is nice.
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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:28 pm

Thanks for the input guys.

Well if the trip comes off,looks like it will be SAS.

There is an additional bonus for flying SAS,the trip will add 2 new aircraft types to my log,MD-90 and 343(ive flown the 346 but managed to miss the 343!)

I'll post a trip report if the trip comes off.

Thanks again

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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:55 pm

Look forward to the MD90. Nicest aircraft built! I've never been in the pax-cabin, only in the jumpseat in the cockpit, but the cabin sure will give you a quiet and pleasant ride. Try to get a seat in the forward part of the cabin, but that shouldn't be a problem if you are flying C.
The 343 is, as stated zillions of times before, a slow climber, but it is quieter than most 2 engine aircrafts. Enjoy your flight!
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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:40 am

Last summer I flow with Lufthansa I C class from Seoul to Frankfurt. A couple a weeks ago I was in Beijing. That time I went with SAS in C class.

I think that both airlines are good, with nice and clean cabins. I think that the food is better on Lufthansa than on SAS. The IFE are better on SAS and the self-service station on SAS longhaul in business is a nice touch. One boring thing with SAS are the old grandma's in the crew.

So, it´s not easy to choose from two nice airlines. But try SAS this time and take the chance to fly two new aircraft types as you mentioned above.

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RE: LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:04 am

I would agree with you choosing SK over LH.

Seat pitch recline is limited innboth SK and LH compared to e.g KLM and BA, but catering on SK is very good. I was impressed by disiplined staff (real sinchronized timing entering the cabin etc ..), wearing special uniform/hats when serving foot. Lots of silver cutlery and nice glass / dishes etc.

Another advantage of Sk A343 is the bar behind the business class zone. Serious bar with lots of choice & friendly & helpfull crew.

You can also look at of the window when on the lavatory, it is turned 45 degrees and has a window  Smile/happy/getting dizzy. Also some kind of stretch bar fixed to a wall behind the c zone enabling an inflight work-out.

However space / big seats & sleeping comfort/IFE are also very important on very long flights .. therefor I personally would prefer KLM

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