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What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:28 pm

For me, SAN terminal 1, STL, BOS, and LHR could use a fix-up. What are your thoughts on different airports.  Smile

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:29 pm

All of MEM Pax terminals

so depressing when I pass thru, how I worked there for a year and a 1/2 I have no idea

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:33 pm

LAX could use some renovation
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:37 pm

I think Denver International Airport needs to be extended to accomodate more gates to attract more international airlines.
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:41 pm

For being relatively new, T4 in PHX is truly pathetic, old gringy carpet throughout the concourses, very drab and gloomy, and the boarding area seats in the high-B concourse I could swear are older than most 727-100's  Sad
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:47 pm

All of this things you guys are saying about great airports!! Just Amazes me! And I was thinking SJU was bad... well, maybe, water dripping from the ceiling, and mold carpets.. garbage.. non working elevators, etc ain't that bad. At least they are fixing some things now.
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:55 pm

no offense ReguPilot, but many of the airports that have been mentioned are among the world's busiest, in industrialized nations with strong economies, and have access to vast amounts of technology available to them, and it is very dissapointing to have an airport with such poor facilities given the previously mentioned factors.
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:19 pm

Terminal B at SMF

Terminal 1 at SFO

Smith Terminal at DTW

All of OAK

All of BUR

All of RNO

And HNL is nice but could be better


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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:22 pm

ATL needs a major overhaul. Its an ugly airport.

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:32 pm

PHX:

No offense either. Although we're not a mayor airport in the world, we are the biggest a busiest airport in the Caribbean. We get more than 200 flights a day (may be more) get served by all, but AmericaWest, AirTran and Southwest, big or almost big american airlines... but its that the goverment its kind of lazy on this things... Hopefully, they just presented a remodelation plan for the airport, that would make it comparable to FLL (aside the runways).
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:54 pm

BOS!!!

It's coming along. Expanded facilities are open and operational at Terminal E, and overall the International Gateway program is about 65% complete. Over at Terminal A, the exterior façade is being put up and the satellite terminal looks nearly complete externally and looks like something in Boston is running on schedule (grand opening scheduled for Spring 2005). New bi-level roadways are operational but still in flux with development around them so they still change and at parts along the arrivals level, the roadway is reduced to just one lane. Parking facilities have been open for some time now but there's still a lot of roadway and cosmetic work that needs to be done. US Airways completed and dedicated their renovated terminal along with expansion of 5 extra gates in 2001 and now have a very nice terminal, although their check-in area could use some work still. American's side was announced in 2001 to be tripled and the installation of US FIS to Terminal B. However, several months later plans changed. With work already in progress at JFK on their new terminal they have shelved their expansion until better economic times. They did give a facelift to their pier in the late-90s which is nice, however not befitting of the size of AA's operations and the configuration of security checkpoints can lead to some headaches for connecting passengers, particularly those arriving on an Eagle flight transferring to Chicago any of the other cities that operate from gates 22-25. In order to transfer you must arrive at the Eagle terminal, be bussed over to the main terminal at gate 30 walk out of security, walk down to the end of the terminal than proceed through another security checkpoint before being able to board your flight. In keeping with this, HP really needs to do something with their gates (37 and 38) which are so barebones past security, the only offerings are some vending machines. ( http://www.aa.com/content/aboutAA/whereWeFly/terminals/terminal_bos.jhtml In order to access link, click on it, then overwrite the bos at the end with BOS and it will work. For some reason the site won't let me with BOS capitalized as it should be)

Terminal C, the main terminal, is home to United, Delta, Delta Connection (and their sizable operation), Midwest, Song, Cape Air and Continental. Connecting in this terminal, again is a mess. However, Delta is the only airline with a decent amount of connecting passengers (UA, I think realized that it was a futile battle going against AA, DL, and US for a large piece of the BOS pie and have since relegated most of their flying to hubs only). For a connecting Delta passenger arriving on a Connection flight, most flights arrive into Gates 41 and 42. All mainline and Song flights depart from Gates 25-36 (although some gates have recently gone to CO) and some flights depart from the other pier. Either way, the passenger must leave the security area and then proceed through another checkpoint whose queues can be brutal at times. Furthermore, Delta Shuttle flights arrive and depart from Terminal B. All of this will be rectified in a little over a year when DL consolidates into the shiny, new Terminal A and Terminal C will be used primarily by carriers with almost-100% O&D traffic. However, it doesn't change that the terminal is ill-planned, and while spacious and bright (in the ticketing hall), it's showing its age in many places and a much needed overhaul and modernization is needed.
(http://www.delta.com/travel/maps_guides/airports/bos/index.jsp)

Terminal D is simply a bus station with jetbridges. The only airline "fortunate" enough to use this gross, poor excuse for a terminal is AirTran and charter carriers during the Winter, although with check-in positions no longer available in Terminal D, they now mostly operate from Terminal E. This terminal has no services what-so-ever (you must walk go to Terminal C) except for the only full-service bank on the airport, it's sad and I feel bad for those that have to use it.

Terminal E recently got its facelife. A new check-in/ticketing hall was finished in May and, per order of Massport, all international carriers must use Terminal E as well as Northwest who have a lease on a certain number of gates and jetBlue, as it was the only place to put them. The new addition is beautiful, however even by today's standards for all the money the terminal is nothing special. It's very boxy and really just has an awe to is for its huge size (stand at either end of the terminal and you'll know what I mean), however as soon as you pass through security it's like being sucked into a time warp. With the exception of some new shops and restaurants, the gate area is in the old terminal and is severely showing its age. The ceiling tiles are dingy and haven't been cleaned in years, bad lighting, and contruction still going on in several places. The terminal is still under reconstruction and all of this will be remodelled in the years to come, however it's slow in coming and the terminal, which was poorly designed to begin with (like stairs down to satellite areas in order to access the jetbridges) is now just an antiquated pain in the neck, and a very poor show for the city of Boston. On the arrivals, customs was recently expanded however, new large belts are slow in coming meaning that during the first major international push many times you'll either have to wait for a belt, which means Immigration won't clear you to come off the plane or you'll have to use a belt that can barely accomodate Icelandair and their 757s let alone a fully-loaded A340 or 777 (the use of a 747 is so hard it's not worth it on those belts). Furthermore, Immigration is expanding their hall to make it faster to process people. Great in theory, but until Immigration gets more agents you can have private desks for ever passenger on a fully-loaded 744 but it doesn't mean a damn if you still only have 15 agents for 400 desks.

In short, BOS is in serious need of a major remodelling. Some of it's done, but a lot still needs to be done.

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:30 pm

BOG - SKBO (El Dorado Int'l)

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:51 pm

This could go on a while. First of all SMF terminal B is a dive! If anyone in this forum has ever walked from B to A you'll know how terrible B is. Also, any MCI terminal is bad, if you've ever lived thru a 3 hour MX delay there as a selectee and had to do a full body cavity search every time you came back thru security, with your bags, to go to the bathroom, you'll know the airport design is flawed. Come on only 2 gates share a security checkpoint? OAK I agree, very bad, and needs an overhaul. This could go on, SEA terminal B, STL anywhere but the east terminal. I'm sure this has been covered, but good topic.
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:10 pm

Paris CDG the round aerogare looks like something from the 1950's desperately needs doing up.
LHR terminals 1, 2 & 3 need rebuilding.
Dulles is awful, concourses need widening connected through their last year and it seemed very narrow and cramped.
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:01 pm

Definitely : CDG terminal 1!!!!
Really a shame to such a big airport to accomodate some airlines in such a bad place!!!
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:31 am

Is CDG Terminal 1 the same as Roissy? Is that the grounded-tire-shaped terminal? If that is it, it definitely needs some face lifting.
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:43 am

As of right now, MSP is a very nice looking airport. They are making improvments though. Their new A-B concourse is amazing (now the Mesaba aircraft can have jetways!), but the C extension is awesome! This is the entrance down to the foodcourt area/gates.


But, the G, F, E, D, and some part of C needs to be redone in my opinion. It needs to look more like O'Hare, some glass paneled ceilings. It needs more natural light, they need to make the ceilings higher! As of right now, it's not THAT bad, but it could be improved. There'll be an F concourse extension by 2007, hopefully that part will look sweet!

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:05 am

Lan fanatic:

Roissy=CDG
The exact name is Roissy-Charles de Gaulle Airport. (Roissy is the name of the nearest town).
Roissy CDG consists of Terminal 1 (the round aerogare), Terminal 2 (A,B,C,D,E,F) and Terminal 3 (charter airlines).
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:48 am

The dilapidated, dirty DL terminal (ex-PA) at JFK should be replaced asap.
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:50 am

LAX. It's still stuck back in the 70's (and I don't mean like a nice nostalgic feeling). The domestic terminal looks like a run-down hospital waiting room in South Central.


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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:53 am

PARIS CDG TERMINAL 1!!!
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:37 am

Canoecarrier: The Port of Seattle is renovating the main part of the terminal and concourse A which I always thought should be done. I like B and C. What has changed in the last 3 years about concourse B? That is where US, CO, WN, and DL are, right?

I have not been to Spokane in about 7 years, but within the last week, I saw on the news a story about security at GEG. The terminal looks exactly the way it did 7 years ago which is exactly the way it was for (IIRC) the 1975 Worlds Fair.

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:41 am

CDG
LGW
DAL
STL
SMF
BUR
LBB
LAX (Terminal 1, 3, 8)
SFO (Terminal 1)
Tear down OAK!
BOS (one day it will be great...)
PHX (quite cramped for "hubs" use)

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:41 am

San Jose-Norman Mineta International always comes up in these discussions. It is continuously under construction, but last year when I went through Terminal C (AS, CO, MX, NW, UA) they were still using airstairs in lieu of jetways and there were no lavatories after TSA security.

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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:45 am

WorldPerks,

Oh yea I forgot to add SJC "C". I was there on Monday, they do have lavs inside of security...its near the Noahs bagel stand
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:48 am

IAH

Terminal D just needs cleaning on the outside... and that building they are constructing right in front of it is going to end up blocking Terminal D which I think is a beautiful structure (when clean).

Every other terminal but Terminal E needs renovation.
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:54 am

CLE, Concourses A, B and C could all use a modernization, although I'm more concerned with C than anything.

Now that CO has these twin "palaces" of Terminal C in EWR, and E in IAH, I'd like to see CO turn C into a similar-looking concourse: wide, high, modern-looking, with very good amenities, like C in EWR and E in IAH. I've always felt that the hub facilities for an airline should be of a certain standard and, if possible, similar design. C in EWR and E in IAH are of the same standard, and a basic design. C in CLE should be the same for CO.
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:59 am

I'd say MIA, LGA, ORD Terminal 2, and ATL could all use some work.
 
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:09 am

Canoe is right Concourse B in SEA does need to remodeled it's too dang small. You have one side that's for getting through security and there's only 2 metal detectors and u have the other side which passengers leave that gate area. It's really small if you watch the local news reports about SEA they also talk about Concourse B and you should see the lines it wraps around and goes past the airlines ticket counters So yes Concourse B does need an overhaul.
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RE: What Airports Are In Need Of Remodeling

Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:24 pm

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DEL
LHR
SJC
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