flyyul
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Air Canada Suspending SYD For Summer

Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:49 am

This is in response of Rod (FLYACYYZ),

AC will be operating YVR-HNL, but eliminating the HNL-SYD service.

This is what is showing in RES systems across the board.

The details of the service are YVR-HNL with a 767-300, configured in an all economy class type seating. Business class sales have been eliminated.
YVR-HNL joins YYZ-ZRH and YYZ-AMS in terms of 763 operated flights in all Y seating.

YUL-CDG (2nd flight), YYZ-DUB and YYZ-GLA are all Y operated 767-200's transatlantic.

Mark
 
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RE: Air Canada Suspending SYD For Summer

Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:12 am

Correction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what AC is doing, is eliminating the YVR-HNL flow, by making people buy YVR-SYD only, with a HNL stop included. It seems that the YVR-HNL sales will be blocked hence.

YVR-HNL:

YVR HNL JUL/12 0700 AC ->

YVR HNL 0830 1120 AC 41 J0 C0 Y0 M0 B0 H0 V0 Q0 L0 767
YVR HNL 1945 2235 AC 33 J0 C0 Y0 M0 B0 H0 V0 Q0 L0 N0 763

YVR-SYD

YVR1SYD 12/1945 0710 AC 33 J9 C3 Y9 M9 B9 H9 V9 Q9 L9 763

HNL-SYD

HNL SYD 0035 0710 AC 33 J0 C0 Y0 M0 B0 H0 V0 Q0 L0 763


Sorry about the misleading title..

mark
 
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RE: Air Canada Suspending SYD For Summer

Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:40 am

So in essence AC is still selling the HNL-SYD leg though right? This is a little confusing. I wonder if this is in response to HA starting their HNL-SYD service? We need all the seats we can get out of SYD to get people into Hawaii.
 
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RE: Air Canada Suspending SYD For Summer

Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:44 am

Are these all economy flights just sold as all economy and some people get lucky enough to get a business class seat with economy service, or are the aircraft actually configured in an all economy layout?

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RE: Air Canada Suspending SYD For Summer

Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:03 am

AC is not selling HNLSYD, but is continuing the stop for re-fueling.

This is what it looks like as of now.

Mark
 
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RE: Air Canada Suspending SYD For Summer

Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:39 am

AIRPLANETIRE:

AC does not have any widebodied aircraft configured/sold in an all "Y" seating configuration. So the answer to your question is yes, and no.

On certain routes, the forward J/C cabin is sold as "S" class or SuperComfort. This is usually allocated to customers who have purchased full Y/C tickets are high end excursion fares in Y/Q/B/M classes. The level of In-Flight service is identical throughout the aircraft. Such routes include MAN/GLA/DUB/SNN & certain Carribean flights sold on behalf of Air Canada Vacations. On AC Vacaction flights, the "BIG SEATS" can be purchased for a surcharge.

On other routes the entire aircraft is sold in an all Y/C configuration, and the forward cabin is available on a first come first serve basis. Such an example would be AC's "supplemental" summer flight AC884 YUL-CDG.

All 767-200's and a few 767-300's are equipped with domestic J/C seating (38-40" seat pitch), however the bulk of 763's are equipped with intercontinental J/C seating (60" pitch).

ROD

[Edited 2004-02-15 21:50:45]
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RE: Air Canada Suspending SYD For Summer

Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:44 am

Mark:

Another unexplained move by the company!! A bit confused. So HNL will only be a tech stop on AC033 without J/C? Doesn't sound right to me. Year round, SYD always had a fairly heavy J/C revenue load.

What about AC041 the "local" YVR-HNL flight, why would there be an inhibit sale on that one??

Also, I think ZRH/AMS is under marketing review. Checking some loads for July, there is already a fair number of J/C seats booked on those respective flights..think that one is still up for grabs. Back in the early 90's when J/C sales were flat, AC had actually configured a few 767-200ER's in a 227/229Y configuration. Haven't heard any rumblings of that plan being resurrected.
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