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Boeing 727/737/Adv

Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:49 am

Why are the oldest model aircraft such as the 737-200 and the 727 models have adv extenstions? Is this do this with hush-kits on the enginges?
 
UAL727222
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RE: Boeing 727/737/Adv

Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:52 am

If by extension, you're referring to the longer engines, at the end of the exhaust, those are hushkits, required for compliance with Stage III noise regulations.
 
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RE: Boeing 727/737/Adv

Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:03 am

If by "extensions" you mean the listings in various aircraft databases like, say, a 737-2H4(A), the "A" designates the "ADVanced" version of the 737-200 (Southwest, in this case) versus the earlier "Basic" version of the 737-200.

Regarding the 737s, the ADV models started showing up in the early 1970s and had several improvements over the Basic models.

-The engine forward engine cowlings were re-designed, and no longer had the little "sucker doors" that opened at high power settings.

-The leading edge Krueger flaps were extended and ran closer to the fuselage, resulting in better takeoff performance.

-Structural weight limits were increased. For example, max landing weight went from 98,000 lbs on a Basic to your choice of 103,000, 105,000 or 107,000 depending upon whether your order JT8D -9, -15, or -17 engines, respectively.

The 727-200 family went through similar changes...
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cs03
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RE: Boeing 727/737/Adv

Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:27 am

For both Models, PAX was increased, and both engine and a/c were improved by adding engine power, and seats (from adding to the a/c size), and it proved to be a money-maker for Boeing!
 
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RE: Boeing 727/737/Adv

Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:12 pm

Here's some more info on the 737s...

http://www.b737.org.uk/history.htm

http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/aircompat/acaps/7371sec2.pdf

To clarify, the fuselage of the 737-100 was stretched and that became the 737-200 (Basic) and the -200 Basic could indeed carry more passengers than a -100. The changeover from -200 Basic to the -200 ADV in 1971 kept the same physical dimensions, IIRC, and any increases in pax capacity between the -200 basic and the -200 ADV were coincidental as to what a particular airline ordered as an option on their -200 ADV's, and wasn't a function of the changeover itself.

As an aside, the 737-200 Basic with -7 engines was a dog aircraft that couldn't get out of its own way on hot days, and/or at hot-and-high airports.

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[Edited 2004-02-16 04:18:57]
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