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SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:21 am

Aeroflot flys SEA-Moscow non-stop 2 or 3 times weekly why? Is there that big of a Russian community in the Pacific Northwest?

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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:29 am

Yes, there is that large a Russian community in the Seattle area.
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:44 am

AK used to fly to Magadan weekly as well, this was stopped a few yrs ago.
 
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:46 am

I believe it is a thru flight Moscow-SFO-SEA.
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:49 am

There's also a large Russian population in the Portland-Salem area, so the flight most likely has passengers from that area as well.
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:54 am

There is a Russian speaking population of roughly 8000 people in the Seattle area. There is also a Russian Consulate in Seattle. Also there is a fair bit of buisness travel because of the high tech companies like Microsoft in Seattle and the growing Russian market.
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:03 pm

As someone mentioned, the route (actually) goes Moscow - SEA - SFO, and return. Folks that do not get off in Seattle clear customs in San Fran (oddly enough), as I ran into some last night in SFO customs. Also, obviously you cannot buy SFO-SEA and ride the 1.75 hour flight in the 777, you must buy a ticket all the way to Russia.
 
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:03 pm

Sadly, Aeroflot is discontinuing service to San Francisco at the end of March. The flight was an a continuation of the Seattle flight. Look for this route to be served by a 767 in the future.
 
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:05 pm

The SFO-SEA portion ends at the end of March. Aerflot is discontinuing San Francisco. Seattle will continue, at an upgraded frequency (3x a week instead of 2x), but with smaller aircraft (763 instead of 772).

While Seattle's Russian community is huge, there are other factors/reasons that Aeroflot flies to Seattle. Chicago and Miami have significantly larger Russian communities, and Aeroflot has suspended service to both in recent years.
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:10 pm

Mymiles2go:

All passengers on the flight clears Immigration/Customs in Seattle before continuing onto SFO. When it arrives at Terminal "G", the passengers exit through the departure area and retrieve their luggage near the arrivals hall on the second level. That Customs officer gave you misinformation.
 
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:14 pm

According to Aeroflot's webpage:
http://www.aeroflot.org/e_aero.htm

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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:17 pm

The city of Bellingham, north of Seattle & just south of the Canadian border has a huge Russian community.

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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:22 pm

Not to mention, a lot of Boeing jobs are being off loaded to Moscow. My guess is they are flying first class.  Yeah sure
 
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:37 pm

Boeing has a large design office in Moscow employing over 500 engineers. I am sure that accounts for some of the SEA-SVO traffic.

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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:44 pm

> All passengers on the flight clears Immigration/Customs in Seattle before continuing onto SFO

Unless something changed within last 3-4 years this is not the case. The SFO passengers were allowed (and actually asked) to deplane (hate this word) in Seattle but were required to stay in the transit area which is a "no man's land" and so they technically do not enter US.
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:42 am

The last time WE cleared a SU flight at SFO was about December 2001. All the passengers are cleared at Seattle. I can guarantee it.
 
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:49 am

Roseflyer, your numbers are off. I'll tell you right now, there are a LOT more then 8,000 russian ex-patriates in Seattle. I mean, about 4 or 5 years ago when I was in high school, about 1/4 to 1/3 of my high school originated in the former Eastern Bloc. Immigriants from the former USSR made up by far the largest minority population in my suburb, which is about 30 minutes SE of Seattle.
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:52 am

Boeing has a large design office in Moscow employing over 500 engineers.

Not anymore they don't -- particularly if current gossip is anything to go by -- 300 Moscovites have been given their marching orders by Boeing.
 
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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:10 am

While Seattle's Russian community is huge, there are other factors/reasons that Aeroflot flies to Seattle. Chicago and Miami have significantly larger Russian communities, and Aeroflot has suspended service to both in recent years.

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RE: SEA-Moscow Why?

Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:15 am

Sorry to be confusing but the numbers I heard were from the 2000 Census. For the actual city of Seattle there are (estimated) 8000 people who list Russian as their primary language in their home. As for the entire state of Washington the figure grows to 31,339 people.

ps. I grew up in Mercer Island which is a suburb 5 miles away from downtown Seattle.

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