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FLL/MIA Rarities

Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:25 am

Hey...hope I am not too late to jump on this bandwagon! I have been wanting to post this for a while. What are some rarities/once in a lifetimes at FLL and MIA (I will accept PBI as well)?

The rarest that I found was concord F-BTSC (the only one to crash), which was on a charter to Buenos Aries from FLL...

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This must have been a suprise to PAX going ATL-FLL:

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Even rarer:

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Mr. President stopped by FLL in September:

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don't want to put too much on one post as it backs up the server...so look for another post tonight with FLL rarities (unless someone beats me to it!)
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FLL/MIA/PBI Rarities

Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:20 am

on january 29th while i was on my way to PBI to catch a flight i saw antonov or illushyn (it was something russian!) cargo jet taking off very low and heavy. it took it a good 6 miles to get above 1,000 ft. i was in such a state of shock that i couldn't even think about reaching for my camera.
 
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Fri Feb 20, 2004 8:42 am

"This must have been a suprise to PAX going ATL-FLL" - I highly doubt most, if not all, pax cared about the type of equipment or were aware that 777's are somewhat odd at FLL...

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:48 am

Greg...your right... as a frequent Florida visitor you know how much people care aout the aircraft...they just care about makin their cruise!

there is no picture...but i had seen and heard a DL MD11 arrive at FLL! Now, that is RARE....the tower was, needless to say, VERY SUPRISED yet excited to see a passenger MD11 here.

FLL has an AirTransat L1011 and A330
we used to get a coupl of 747s
most recently: CHARTER 744 JAL in 1998 and SCHEDULED 744 SAA JHB-FLL-ATL up until a few years ago.
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:59 am

On a serious note, I usually see an Algerian AF IL-76 at FLL around Christmastime most years lately...thats somewhat odd I think...

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:17 pm

Early one morning back in mid 2003 in the MIA was fogged out. Due to the fact that South Florida is not know for foggy weather there were quiet a few diverts to FLL.

Some of the aircraft were.
TAM A330, VARIG MD-11, UAL 767-300, 2 UPS 757's, Arrow Air DC-8, AA 757 and MD-80. And a few others I can't remember.

This didn't last long as when the fog lifted around 8am the aircraft that were just sitting on the ramp transfered back to MIA.
 
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:38 pm

It was actually common to have MD-11 and 777 subs with Delta flights to FLL and MIA. Same with Tampa.

South Florida does get its share of fog; advection fog; not the standard convection fog you see in valleys in higher elevations. Advection fog can occur in South Florida quite easily during mid-late winter season into early spring.
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:45 pm

I've seen a couple of rarities there: Most recently last week, First choice 757 landing from?? About at this same time the last 2 yeas i've seen an Air 2000 at FLL. Also the hybrid Star Airlines/Air Transat A320

other rarities I've seen at FLL:

Air Columbus 727 (kelowna flightcraft) operated for a few months
Caribbean Sun Dash-8
Nacional (Brazil) 737-200 probably returning from a lease
Reliant Airlines falcon? cargo jet
Geo Air Convair 580
Algerian Air Force Il-76 about 3 years ago
Lauda air 767-300 (back in 1995)
Balkan Bulgarian 767-200 around 95 or 96

MIA rarities would take me a while to remember all, too many...


 
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:19 pm

Well, for MIA there were a couple of JetBlue A320's just this past week when FLL was fogged in.

MIA has had so many one rareties over time it isn't funny. Right off the top of my head I can think of:

The A300 demonstrator aircraft in 1973 - they parked at Eastern for a day or two for them to check out (I got onboard) and then at National for a day or two.

The Concorde demonstrator aircraft came in 1974 with British painted on one side and Air France on the other. They parked on an Eastern gate since Eastern was interested at the time and had models and paintings of a Concorde in Eastern's scheme in their offices.

Iraqi B747 freighter in the 80's (I have a photo in the database)

NASA Super Guppy carrying a damaged Navy fighter in the back (I have a photo(s) in the database)

BAe-146 demonstrator aircraft that put on one hell of an airshow over the north half of MIA in 1984, the same day Concorde started 3x weekly service on the LHR-IAD extension. We closed 9L/27R for the event. Photos to be scanned someday.

F-4 Phantoms and F-16's diverting from Homestead whenever their runway was closed due to FOD, incident, heavy rain, etc. They were always low as hell on fuel making them Alert II's.

Various Russian aircraft types hijacked on internal Cuban flights and forced to fly to MIA. Photo or two in the database.

An Iberia DC10 diverted to MIA one night in the mid 80's after takeoff from HAV to MAD and they suspected they blew some tires on takeoff out of HAV but they didn't know which gear. I used a high power portable spotlight on my ramp car to illuminate the main gear as they did a low flyby just to the north of the tower and we could see the right mains were blown out. He used every inch of 10,500 ft 9-left landing and left rubber from the touchdown point to the very end of 9-left. Photos somewhere to be scanned. Passengers had to be transported to secure area from the runway and held there until another aircraft could be brought in because no one had visas to enter the USA.

Various Saudi royal family aircraft (74's and SP's and L1011's)

Numerous USAF KC-10 tankers when Pan Am had a maintenance contract on them in the 80's

Japan Airlines used to stop at MIA for fuel only with DC8's enroute from Japan via Anchorage enroute to Brasil and on the return trip

RAF L1011 tankers and Nimrods from time to time - I have a circular crew patch decal from a Nimrod that says "236 OCU" on it

CammaCorp DC8-72 demonstrator

and all kinds of foreign dignitary and government aircraft over the years plus other diversions I can't think of right now.









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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:09 pm

Don,

very interesting accounts, especially the flashlight inspection! but why go through all that hassle, why didn't it continue over to madrid and land over there istead??

Also don't forget the many rare airlines that get their planes into MIA for painting, maintenance, delivery..
some of which end up lasting only a few months in business after their aircraft leave here: Swedeways, Africa One etc  Big grin
 
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:35 pm

Here are some recent ones:


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Only in MIA because of an Israeli contractor located on the North side...


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Probably won't see this again....


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Still unsure of the reason this guy came into MIA (it was a few days in a row)


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I was very suprised when this one came in right after the AF CDG daily!


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This guy spent a lot of time at AvBorne being prepared for delivery (new seats, paint, etc). I was fortunate enough to take a tour of the bird too!

These of course are the rarities I myself have documented in recent months...

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:33 pm

Ryan

whoa u got a tour of the biman bangladesh while i could only watch it and wonder if and when it would go out so i could get at least a record shot! lol

the Ted A320 was flying for united that day but Ted just started so unless they serve miami, it would indeed be a rare sight. By the way I don't spend much time at the wholes but I do go by MIA a lot and never see you or Graham, are you two invisible or something? hehe



 
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MIA Rareties

Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:09 am

Very nice photos Ryan! I'm glad you're down there a lot catching the oddball stuff that comes into MIA.

Unfortunately Commodore Aviation will no longer be the reason for a lot of the oddball stuff as they're moving their operations to Rome, NY. There's still a couple of aircraft in their mostly closed up hangar, a 707 and a C-130 like your photo above and I imagine once those aircraft are done they're outta here. Fortunately there's still Avborne plus the maintenance companies in the old Pan Am hangars on the north side to attract a lot of oddball aircraft.

On the Iberia diversion question, it was the captain's decision to divert to MIA, perhaps after consultation with his company's ops control center. Maybe he had more confidence in the ARFF capabilities at MIA than that at MAD or HAV. And very likely he didn't feel comfortable crossing the pond with hot blown out rubber in the wheel wells that can sometimes ignite and create a disastrous fire. I don't know that he even retracted the main gear after takeoff and he sure wouldn't cross the pond with the main gear down.

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:55 am

I remember seeing the South African 744 @ FLL in June 01.
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:25 am

Mia777,

My former stepdad, a retired A300 captain for AA was doing test flights with the Biman Bangladesh b/w Mia and the Bahamas.

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:45 am

MIA does not really have many rarities. MIA must be the most diveresed airport in the country or atleast after JFK but i think it gets alot more different types. Especially all the old planes that come into MIA and all the Russian planes. And AF and IB A320's and A319's ERJ-145! Does not get any better. Just showing some of the Diversity!
Does anyone know if MIA still gets these giant ones?

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This one is not that popular in MIA but more and more are coming.


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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:49 am

I think the Iberia 320 that is now flying between MIA and SJO it a rare plane at MIA.

Do any of you already got a shot of this one?

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:18 am

Delta 777's aren't that rare in FLL... twice in the past two years, the 767's I was scheduled to fly on up to ATL were swapped out with 777's last minute.

The one rare thing I personally saw at FLL was the Virgin Atlantic 747 that made an unannounced visit there sometime last year. I was actually driving up I-95 as she was lining up to roll... let me tell you I nearly got into an accident when I saw her there, right next to the highway.
 
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:31 pm

Flairport,

You guys in South FL, have some pretty interesting birds passing through. Keep your thread going. You guys post some cool photos from FLL & MIA. On behalf on the HNL spotters, we wish you success in your thread. God bless.

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:22 am

How about nonstop service to PVD??? does that apply here..lol
 
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:01 pm

Bluewave if we were to post pics of all the rarities MIA has had, just only in the past 6 or 7 years, the thread would be endless and my computer would crash

Flymia: "MIA does not really have many rarities"

-You're right, -if you are talking about scheduled airlines that don't go anywhere else in the US, yes unfortunately those years are long gone. Still, there are a few like TAM, Aerocontinente, TAMPA, ABSA..
What IS scarce is the number of (passenger) charter flights by international airlines not usually serving miami. But MIA makes up for that for the rare visitors that unexpectedly appear for maintenance, delivery or VIP flights etc.

-As far the the russian planes, the Antonovs come in once in a great while, they can be considered rare here. The Aeroflot IL62s are long gone (since 1998) from miami. Those ERJs145s above are very common now. The only Russians (now Ukranian) we get regularly are the Antonov-26 and An-12 which sometimes visit MIA but are based at the Opa Locka airport.

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:12 pm

Yea you are right MIAMIx707!

Copa737: No they are still flying between many Central American Cities and Cancun atleast 10 flights a day. I think we have 4 IB A319's based in MIA. The AF A320 only comes once a day.
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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:33 pm

I totaly forgot!

About 3 years ago we (FLL) had an AN-124 in the "Antonov" colors come in to drop off two boats for Gulfcoast Marina. She landed up sitting on the ramp for 3 weeks near Term 3 (Term 2 back then) waiting for a load that went to Texas.

Back when you could look at Satilite Photos on mapquest.com the photo of Ft.Lauderdale Intl Arpt showed the AN-124 on the ramp.


I find it hard to believe that all the other FLL locals forgot about the -124.


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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:50 am

MIAMIx707,
The First Choice Airways/Air 2000 B757s that visit FLL (and also IAD) several times every year are operating round-the-world VIP charters in an all First Class configuration. The flight routing through FLL are generally on the way to/from South America.

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Britannia's B767s are infrequent visitors to FLL operating cruise charters, they certainly flew there last winter - not so sure about this year.

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RE: FLL/MIA Rarities

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:01 am

It's me again,

Just a small update. I read the captions on the these photos and there not 100% right. The Concorde was on her way to Buenos Aires, but it was the first leg of an around the world flight that was going to stop at over 17 cities and end at JFK on Oct 31st. Tickets for the full flight were $60,000



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