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Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:15 am

I was wondering if any airlines that operate several different classes of airplanes have an all-Airbus or all-Boeing fleet. So, I am not talking about SWA or any other LCCs that have only one kind of plane.
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:16 am

MEA.
Middle East Airlines. All Airbus

Qatar Airways. All Airbus
 
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:21 am

WN: All Boeing

DL: All Boeing (assuming you count the MD aircraft as Boeing now)?



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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:21 am

I'm sure there are many examples around the world:

Sri Lankan, Dragon Air etc - all Airbus

Many US airlines - all Boeing

Are there all MD airlines?
 
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:23 am

If you were to count the 717 as an MD aircraft (because it was initially designed by MD), then Midwest Airlines would be all-MD.
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:24 am

This discussion might be more relevant if we include airlines who have never ordered one or the other.

MEA has operated Boeings. I do not believe that Qatar has.

Other than that...Cyprus Airways has an all airbus fleet but has operated 707s in the past.

Same with RJ, they have also had 747s.

I do not believe that Saudia has any Airbus aircraft.

There are of course others...
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:25 am

Britannia Airways in the UK has an all Boeing fleet comprising of 757-200's, 767-200's and 767-300's.

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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:25 am

Many US airlines - all Boeing

Not really the majors...AA, UA, NW and US all have both. Delta has operated Airbuses in the past, ex-Pan Am A310s though.
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:27 am

I *think* - but I'm not sure - that Aer Lingus have stated they intend to move over to being an all-Airbus operation in the not-too-distant future.
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:30 am

CO - All Boeing

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:30 am

BAL
Brittannia (UK Charter) - All Boeing - 752, 762 and 763

RYR
Ryanair (Irish LCC) - All Boeing 732,733,738 (Inherited some B146's but doesn't fly them I don't think - correct me if I'm wrong)
 
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:33 am

Aeromexico- all boeing (considering md-80s as Boeing)
 
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:33 am

Air Zimbabwe is now all Boeing.

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:35 am

Aloha Airlines. All Boeing. 737-200 and 737-700.

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:36 am

How could I forget Futura.. all Boeing.


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Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:37 am

Frontier will be all-Airbus by the end of 2005.

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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:37 am

Tekelbery, you beat me to it.

Also, FL is technically, since they'll be dropping the A320s (which are actually wet-leased from Ryan Int'l) in favor of 737s, and the CRJs are operated by Air Wis under the Jet Connect banner.
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:40 am

AirxLiban,

I do not believe that Saudia has any Airbus aircraft.

They operate 11 A300-600s. They were even the launch customer for the type.
 
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:47 am

CO does still operate a few MD-80s, but I guess the other poster is considering them as boeing too...
 
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:50 am

The only US major to have an all-Boeing fleet is WN, and it doesn't count because it's a one-type LCC in which the original poster was not looking for. off the top of my head here are the fleets of the US majors (I'm sure I'll probably forget one or two aircraft but this gets my point across):

AA: McDonnell Douglas MD-82/-83, Boeing 737-800, Boeing 757-200, Boeing 767-200/-300, Boeing 777-200, Airbus A300-600R, Fokker F-100

UA: Boeing 737-300/-500, Boeing 747-400, Boeing 757-200, Boeing 767-200/-300, Boeing 777-200, Airbus A319-100, Airbus A320-200

DL: McDonnell Douglas MD-88/MD-90, Boeing 737-200/-300/-800, Boeing 757-200, Boeing 767-200/-300/-400, Boeing 777-200

NW: Douglas DC-9-10/-30/-50, Airbus A319-100, Airbus A320-200, Airbus A330-300 (and soon the -200), Boeing 757-200/-300, Boeing 747-200/-400

CO: McDonnell Douglas MD-81/-82 (being phased out very very slowly, and will give CO an all-Boeing fleet when they are), Boeing 737-300/-500/-700/-800/-900, Boeing 757-200, Boeing 767-200/-400, Boeing 777-200

WN: Boeing 737-200 (soon to be retired), Boeing 737-300/-500/-700 (LCC)

US: Boeing 737-300/-400, Boeing 757-200, Boeing 767-200, Airbus A319-100, Airbus A320-200, Airbus A321-200, Airbus A330-300

HP: Boeing 737-200 (soon to be retired), Boeing 737-300, Airbus A319-100, Airbus A320-200, Boeing 757-200

AS: Boeing 737-200/-400/-700/-900, McDonnell Douglas MD-82/-83

ATA: Lockheed L1011-385 (I think they are -385's), Boeing 737-800W, Boeing 757-200/-300

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:00 am

Scorpio,

Thanks for the correction...


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Do they have lots of these? Only two are shown in the database, the rest are leased ones with Turkish registration.
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:07 am

This is to LondonCenter

Ryanair do operate their Bae 146's, one of them is used for Blackpool to London Stansted, but thats the only one I know of.
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:07 am

AirxLiban,

They own 11 A300-600Rs with Saudi registrations.

There aren't many photos of them because they are primarily used on domestic flights (between Riyadh, Jeddah, Dammam, and Madinah).

As you know, photography at Saudi airports is prohibited.

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:08 am

Isn't JetBlue all Airbus? I think so, at least until they start getting EMB-190's.
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:10 am

Yes, but JetBlue is a LCC---the poster was looking for non-LCC's.
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:13 am

ANA is slated to be all Boeing once they start swapping their 320s for 737NG. Perhaps Kenya Airlines or Ethiopian are also all Boeing.

In 1996, I saw a 747-classic with some kind of Arabic/Persian script in Bangkok. I could not read it but found out later (or thought so) that it was Qatar Airways. Was I mistaken?
 
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:20 am

CO also has the 757-300

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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:25 am

Just had a thought: World Airways only operates McDonnell Douglas DC-10's and MD-11's. TransMeridian Airlines operates Boeing 727's, and 757's. Ohh yes and also Air Pacific...737-800, 747-400.
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:35 am

Wow! Thanks for all the replies guys! Seems CO is the one that will be an all Boeing company in near future.
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:44 am

El Al is all Boeing arent they? I really dont know so someone correct me if im wrong.
 
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:52 am

BA,

They own 11 A300-600Rs with Saudi registrations

Actually, they're standard A300-600s, not -600Rs. The first -600R was delivered in 1988, to AA, and SV's A300s date back to 1985.

N79969,

In 1996, I saw a 747-classic with some kind of Arabic/Persian script in Bangkok. I could not read it but found out later (or thought so) that it was Qatar Airways. Was I mistaken?

You probably weren't. They used to operate (I believe) 2 747s, which, in the second half of the 90s, were replaced by the A300-600R.


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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:58 am

Scorpio,

That's the livery I saw alright. I saw the right side of the airplane which did not have any roman lettering. Thanks.
 
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:14 am

EL AL has always been an ALL BOEING Airline.
707, 737, 737NG, 747, 757, 767, 777
Past and current.
Though they once made an order for 2 or 3 A330's that they never followed through on. That order was made when they were deciding between 777 or 340.
When the decision to get the 777 was made, they ordered a few less 777 and made a decision to compliment the order with a few 330's instead. I think that order for Airbuses was only made to appease Airbus. Airbus hinted that if LY doesn't order any a/c from them that they will not offer to sell them anymore a/c in the future. POLITICS FOR YOU.
Though at the end (after a year) they ended up ordering a fourth 777 and postponed the decision to get the A330 for a future date when they will need to update their medium range a/c. My guess is that they will get 7E7's.
 
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:22 am

Egyptair is planning to become an All-Airbus operator. They are replacing their B777s with A330s and B737-500 with A320s. Eventually they will be operating A320s, A321s, A300s, A330s and A340s.

Though there have been rumours that they will purchase Embraer jets for domestic services. We'll have to wait and see.....
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:25 am

hiiii  Big thumbs up

Tap Air Portugal is an all airbus airline!

The current fleet is A340-300; A310-300; A321; A320; A319!!!!!!!

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:28 am

Hawaiian Airlines all Boeing.

11-717's
14-767's

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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:33 am

KaiGwyer & DeltaMD11 --

I would consider CO and DL to be all-Boeing. Boeing has acquired McDonnel-Douglas, produces spare parts, and provides maintenance service for all MD planes. In fact, the MD-80 is considered the "Boeing MD-80." As of now, I think you could say they have an all-Boeing fleet.
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:34 am

German Wings have all Airbus

A319's
A320's
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:36 am



Sterling Airways (LCC) is all boeing.

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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:47 am

Ssdies, though boeing has taken over the parts manufacturing aspect, the MD-80 was fully designed and produced for many many years under McDonnell Douglas. Boeing had no part in the design or the manufacture of them. Using that logic that would be like saying the the Martin 404 is technically a Lockheed aircraft or that the Grumman F-9F Panther or Grumman F-14 Tomcat, or Grumman A-6 Intruder/EA-6B Prowler are Northrop aircraft. You get my gist? My gist: The DC-9-81/-82/-83, MD-87, MD-88, MD-90 were fully designed and produced by McDonnell Douglas and are McDonnell Douglas aircraft. The 717 can be considered a Boeing aircraft because Boeing contributed to major aspects of the design as well as they produce the airframes now. Boeing considers it the Boeing MD-80, but if you look on those lovely little manu. plates on each aircraft conveniently located on the bulkhead near 1L you will clearly see McDonnell Douglas. Do I need to say more?
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:48 am

When Boeing bought out McD they also took on the responsibilities McD had, not only things like spare parts, but even any lawsuit that might arise from a problem with an McD aircraft, even though many people do not think for example an MD-80 is a Boeing plane, think again Boeing is very much so responsible for what happens to that aircraft, like it or not, an McD is legally classified as a Boeing aircraft now.
 
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:56 am

It's not about liking it or not. Though they are legally responsible for the aircraft, they are not Boeing designed or manufactured. What is, what is. Boeing is responsible for them, but doesn't make them a Boeing aircraft. If a big problem arose with the MD-80's (which one probably wont because look how long they have been in service), but hypothetically, and Boeing had a lawsuit crawling up their butts how willing do you think they would be to associate themselves with the MD-80 then?
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:06 am

-Orient Thai Airlines --> Boeing (B747)

-Volare Airlines (LCC) --> Airbus (A320)

-Belair --> Boeing (B767, B757)

-Transavia --> Boeing (B757, B737)

-Virgin Blue (LCC) --> Boeing (B737)

-Edelweiss Air --> Airbus (A330, A320)

-Varig --> Boeing (B777, B767, B737, MD11)

-Aircalin --> Airbus (A330, A320)

-Air Tahiti Nui --> Airbus (A340)

-Some airlines that will be all Airbus or all Boeing in the future:
South African
Swiss Intl. Air Lines
EgyptAir
Frontier
Air Canada, JAL, Austrian Airlines (not 100% sure)
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:17 am

Scorpio and BA, thanks for your responses.

Could one of you, or for that matter anyone else tell me what the difference is between an A300-600 and an A300-600R?

Is it "R"ange?

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:22 am


Airxliban

The A300-600 was a maximum range of 4,257 miles (6852km) and the
A300-600R has a range of 4,660 miles (7500km)
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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:06 am

Does this mean that if someone dies in a Fairchild F-27/FH-227 accident, even tho its a license built aircraft, if Fokker was still around, would the people be suing Fokker or Fairchild.

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RE: Any All-Airbus Or All-Boeing Airlines?

Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:40 am

Both Air Calin and Air Tahiti Nui are exclusive Airbus operators.

Air Calin (Air Calédonie International) of New Caledonia operates two A330-200' and has just taken delivery of its A320 replacing the 737-300 (pictured).


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Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:50 am

Ignoring fleet size, are there more all-Airbus operators or more all-Boeing operators?
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:55 am


Kalakua

Lotus-Spirit of Egypt operate A320s and A319s (All Airbus operator)
Midwest Airline (Egypt) operate A310s and A320s (All Airbus operator)
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Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:49 am

What about TACA and Royal Jordanian? I also suppose that if EI and IC phase out the 737s, they will be all Airbus.
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