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Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:04 pm

Does anyone know of or have any details of where ex Wien Air Alaska 737 N494WC might be or if it even if this registration even exsisted? I know Alaska Airlines has N492WC (N743AS), and N493WC (N744AS) but I'm trying to figure out what happened to N494WC...

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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:38 pm

Did you look up ARCO Aviation's two 737-200s? I know that one of them is leased from Braathens but not sure about the other one. Both planes are/were maintained by AS. We did a check on one of them in SEA once back in 1999 which was a 3 day minor C-check.

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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:23 pm

I want to say both are ex-brathens but don't hold me to that.


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Actually there where two, one BP and one ARCO, wearing the same blue and green markings. The two companies operated them together, with AS providing the ground support.


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I haven't seen the green one recently, I think it got repainted and renumbered after the merger.


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I suspect it is now this philips aircraft, but don't know for sure, can anybody confirm?


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I believe that both 737's where purchase to replace N753AS which was used prior. This aircraft had a gear up landing in Anchorage in the late 1980's. I think the oil company owned 737's came along right after that. In that case I believe the aircraft was owned by Alaska and operated as a charter in the ARCO colors. That aircraft BTW was the last 727 that Alaska Airlines operated, when it was retired in 1994, they had been running it as a straight freighter between Anchorage and Seattle.


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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:40 pm

I'm pretty sure that the Arco and BP airplanes never flew for Wien. They have pretty high serial numbers and Wien went out of business in 1984 thanks to Mr. Flood...Both aircraft are 1986 vintage as well. I just need to come up with something for N494WC...

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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:51 pm

Wheren't all of the Wien birds combi's?

That would rule out the two Arco/BP aircraft. Neither are combi's.
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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:29 pm

I believe a few where not combi's, such as the one picked up from Frontier...I could be wrong however. The Arco ship is now the Phillips ship, and I think BP sold the bumble bee.

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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:29 pm

Must have been recent.

I took the binocs and just looked over at the AS ANC hanger. It looks like the phillips bird is there along with one of the -200's but it's a little dark this time of year to tell.
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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:32 pm

The BLUE 737 by ARCO/BP is the one that I worked on at AS and I dont remember the tail number for that one. Those planes are used to bus oil workers from ANC to the oil fields up north in Alaska. The interiors are the same of AS. Ive never seen the green one in person but I have heard from other mechanics that there was a green one.

Have you checked on the other remaining AS 737-200C's? I do know that N730AS belongs to AS 100% and has been with AS for its entire life. Maybe you should look in the data base for all 9 -200C's and see if your anwser lies there. I do know that N747AS is from a different country and hasnt been in the AS fleet not even 4 years yet. Hope that helps.
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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:42 pm

Both the Phillips and BP birds are still around and operated by Shared Services. AS holds the ground handling argreement thru the Spring at which point NAC has been awarded the bid. The BP bird just came out of either C or D check (guessing D check) this past summer sporting an updated paint job.

Both of these birds came from Braathens at one point, walking through the cabin you will notice the catering gear still sports the Braathens logos.

The registration history on the phillips bird (N733PA) is: PP-SPC, LN-SUZ, N737AR. The history on the BP bird (N736BP): PP-SPB, LN-SUU

Looking at the Alaska Combi fleet history, as N743AS suggested, only 743 & 744 came from Wien.

I have looked through as many registration databases as I know and cannot find any history at all of N494WC. Are you sure this was the registration? There were several other classic Wien birds that went to American and United. Any other ideas?

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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:00 am

Per Aeromoe Fleet index, this registration does not exist. There is however, N492WC & N493WC...both for 737-210Cs, as you have pointed out. Here's the link you can see for yourself. Scroll to the "W", then review all the carriers with "Wien" in the name. Good luck & regards.

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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:59 am

I know what the Arco and BP do, We do the maintanance on them in ANC and used to provide pilot services for the A/C's...I'll solve this riddle by checking in my dads logbook and seeing if there is any record of N494WC. I'll let ya know what I come up with. I'm going to need a new handle and I'm thinking about doing a throw back to the days of the good ol' days in Alaska Aviation...

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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:18 am

Mystery solved...N494WC was never on the property.
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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:36 am

Hey N743AS -- Are you on First Class email? Shoot me an email if you have a chance Ryan Mo will pop up with my full name...Have a good one....
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RE: Wien Air Alaska 737's

Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:13 am

First class seems to hate me, you can get me flyGweduck@yahoo.com...

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