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clickhappy
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How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:16 am

and not IAH?

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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:25 am

I would like to know this myself, but I have learned never to question the actions of Gordon Bethune. He is the man!!  Big thumbs up

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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:27 am

According to the Great Circle Mapper, it's approx 700nm less to fly to MCO. Depending on the tech stops they have to make on the way up, it might mean the difference between 1 and 2 stops.

OTOH, it might have something to do with taxes. I helped deliver a couple MD-11's when I was at DL. We flew them direct from LAX to BDA. In BDA, the company did some paperwork in which they sold the A/C, and immediately repurchased it. Then when it was first put into revenue service, it was technically a "used" airplane, and saved having to pay the state of California sales tax on the aircraft. I don't know how it all worked, I just know it happened.....
 
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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:04 am

I remember reading an article in Airways or Airliner magazine about Frontier taking delivery of an A319. The delivery flight went to Phoenix then the plane began revenue service the next morning on a Phoenix-Denver flight. Was for tax reasons.
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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:19 am

700nm less to fly to MCO from where?

Tax reasons are very compelling.

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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:45 am

Brazil? Isn't COEx a big Embraer operator.
 
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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:47 am

Simple.... CO has two large hangars there,... perhaps IAH is reserved for more MX and CO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO is for more familiarization and training.
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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:47 am

I think it's only narrowbodies that CO has delivered to Orlando, I think it has to do with CO's maintenance facility at Orlando and perhaps some tax issues.

When I was on vacation in Orlando back in March 1994 I remember seeing CO's first batch of 737-500s (about three or four of them) lined up at the airport, this was just prior to the 737-500 entering service with CO.
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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:25 am

Orlando is the primary heavy maintenance base for CO narrow body aircraft. When the aircraft is first delivered, it goes thru a "conformity" inspection where all of the "time controlled items" are inventoried, along with the weight and balance, compass correction cards, etc. This information is fed into the maintenance computer so that the required re certifications, inspections can be scheduled later on. This is specially for fire bottles, extinguishers, oxygen bottles, oxygen generators, etc. Also, all of the company manuals and passenger briefing cards are installed, special galley equipment installed (coffee brewers, etc).

When ExpressJet receives a new ERJ, it either comes to TYS or IAH for the same treatment. When the ERJ's arrive in the US, they clear customs at FLL, Embraers US headquarters, then to the conformity check stations, then re-postioned to the line station, usually a hub, IAH, CLE, EWR.
 
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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:28 am

Frontier does take the plane to a station other than DIA as then when it makes its first revenue flight to DIA it is now a used aircraft, and it is does for the tax reasons others have mentioned.
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RE: How Come CO Takes Deliveries Thru MCO

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:00 am

thanks for all the info!

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