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US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:06 am

Did a check and didn't find anything about this subject posted over here...

A new American transatlantic low-cost start-up is planned!

The name is Rivierajet and will fly to Brussels from (probably) New York and Fort Lauderdale.
Other destinations will be NY Metro (New York JFK), Miami Metro (Fort Lauderdale), London Metro (Stansted), Riviera Metro (Nice), German Metro (Berlijn), Italy Metro (Rome) en Benelux Metro (Brussel). They are also talking with airports in Washington D.C. and Orlando.
For the aircrafts they are negotiating with Boeing (767-300ER) and Airbus (A330-200) but also with lease companies.

Source: http://www.luchtzak.be/postlite3636-.html

They also have a website: http://www.rivierajet.com

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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:14 am

Hmmm... I would not put my hopes too high. Sounds like a paper airline to me. We have discussed the disadvantages of long-haul low cost operatiosn quite frequently on this board, and I haven't come across a convincing reason why a true LCC will be able to offer fares below the ones of e.g. Britain's and Germany's high-density charter carriers.
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:30 am

I second what TriStar500 said in his post...
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:35 am

Is it me or does their site look amazingly like JetBlue's?





Hmmmm....
 
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:40 am

Air Transport World is reporting on this as well....

http://www.atwonline.com/indexfull.cfm?newsid=3913
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:41 am

Is it me or does their site look amazingly like JetBlue's?

Indeed, that was the first thing I noticed when I clicked the link.

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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:48 am

Are you sure about new airlines will able come to FLL? How? When? or What? Can you please tell us about exactly what is going on for their new flight to FLL? Thanks!  Smile
 
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:48 am

I dunno guys, it might be a little more serious than you think. Freddie Laker is on their executive staff...
 
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:58 am

From the Financials page: "RivieraJet will cross into profitability in year one."

I don't see this happening. I agree with TriStar500, don't keep your hopes up.

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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:08 am

If u click TEAM UP, is that not a pic with PAN AM staff. Im sure that was from a film, but cant recall what it was called.

Does sound a good lidea, and they seem to doing everything tog et it started up.

Lets hope they make it.
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:09 am

I was reading further into the site, and I did find that Jet Blue was named on a couple of places in the text. Sir freddie laker is apparently an advisor. Hmmm.

The jury is still out...

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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:11 am

Trekster:

yes, thats leonardo dicaprio in the pilot uniform, from the movie "catch me if yuo can"
 
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:28 am

Thats where i knew that pic from.

Been havin a look at the site, and if it does come into the real life, it looks like it will be a good airline.
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:43 am

Does anyone currently serve Berlin nonstop from the US?
 
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:43 am

With all the frills they plan to offer (and the complexity that comes along with it), it will be interesting to see where low costs come from. The cabin layout looks like not too many seats (BTW, the Business Classic seat they show is the old LH seat, even the same colors).
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:49 am

A website does not an airline make. Even the addition of Sir Freddie doesn't make them stand out anymore than any other potential startup. Looks like they are european based, but I'm not certain. And there's no talk of finanacial backing either. Remember how much talk there was before JetBlue launched? We all heard that Neeleman was going to start a new airline, and how much startup capital he had raised.....
 
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:49 am

From the Financials page: "RivieraJet will cross into profitability in year one."

I noticed that too... not very realistic at all (just like the whole project actually).

As mentioned above, my first feelings were also that this is an airline on paper...

Frederic
 
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:27 pm

Rivierajetuses a flash-based webpage.

This is a very bad idea. Such pages....

..... take way too long to load. Most of the world still uses dialup modems, especially in the US. This also gives greater demand for server side bandwidth - when the site gets busy it will be still slower. Most people will not go to a site that takes forever to load unless they know about and are interested in you already. Even then they will be annoyed and will look elsewhere as soon as they can.

...... don't get noticed by search engine robots because they have less plain text. Even someone looking for you won't find you unless you have been linked to by other sites. Even then it will be harder.

.......turn off people who turn off flash. Many people turn off flash because the flash content on most pages is either advertising or irrelevant fluff. These people will not be able to see your page without adjusting their browsers, and why should they take the trouble? Your dependance on flash has already told them that what you are peddling is probably more "flash" than substance.

Successfull business websites tend to use nice, clean, professional-looking HTML. Any other tech they use is quick-loading and supported by nearly all browsers. If Rivierajet plans to use tech wisely, they certainly arn't getting off to a good start with that website.
 
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:32 pm

I think ATA was talking about the same city pairs too.
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RE: US Transatlantic Low Cost Start-up

Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:43 am

I think this airline has been done before. Charter Airline names like Transamerica, Global International, Capital Airways and Tower Air. The low cost transatlantic market has fallen by the wayside and it can't compete. PeoplExpress was the proof of that.
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