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US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:56 am

Beginning June 12, US Airways will operate Saturday service LGA-AUA and LGA-STT, as well as adding a 2nd Saturday flight LGA-SJU. (These flights can operate on Saturdays because the LGA perimeter rule is not in effect then.)

From LGA, US currently serves NAS (8x weekly), FPO (Sat. only), SJU (Sat. only), and BDA (seasonal daily).
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:01 am

I wonder if this will disappear as quickly as the announced BOS/LGA-LAS weekend service which disappeared before every operating...
 
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:07 am

Haveric:
I never even knew those services were to start. When was this slated to begin?
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:39 am

My only question is, where do the AUA passengers clear customs? I know that YUL, YYZ, BDA, NAS, etc. have pre-clearance, thus allowing flights into LGA, but I wasn't aware that AUA did. Does anyone know if they do?
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:56 am

Yes, Aruba has preclearance.
 
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:00 am

Great move: start to expand to the caribbean from cities rather than the hubs. Now BOS has a decent operation and LGA has one too, shame it's mainly on Sat. though
 
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:19 am

Thanks, Sebwhite. Good to know.
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:45 am

Smart decision, better use of assets (aircraft). These are the kinds of things that US needs to do to strive to become profitable again. They have so many strengths (major market share in many hefty markets). It's still a long road ahead, but at least there still on it! Maybe Saturday only to FLL and/or SJU from PVD could work??
 
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:52 am

From LGA to these destinations they need very little if any connecting traffic to fill these flights, and if passengers do not want to stay 7 nights to return on the Saturday non stops they do offer connecting service via there hubs an different days of the week.
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:00 am

shame it's mainly on Sat. though

It has to be. SJU, AUA, and STT are outside the perimeter.
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:50 am

Bring it all to STT baby, yeah! The more the merrier!
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:04 am

I know that YUL, YYZ, BDA, NAS, etc. have pre-clearance, thus allowing flights into LGA,

Not that it really matters.... even pre-cleared flights must still operate to airfields with C&I processing capability, which LGA is.
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:11 am

MAH4546: yes i know it has to be because they are all outside the perimeter. I was just noting that it's a shame they can only fly on Sat. because these routes would do well daily, especially LGA-SJU.
 
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:02 am

Not that it really matters.... even pre-cleared flights must still operate to airfields with C&I processing capability, which LGA is.

Well, actually it does matter. LGA has that technical capability, but on a limited scale--meaning that airlines cannot simply fly there from anywhere they want. Yes, there are Customs/INS agents on staff at the airport, for private aircraft or emergencies, but the airport is not set up to handle planeloads of international arrivals on a regular basis--the passenger terminals are domestic only. When you arrive at LGA from a foreign airport with preclearance facilities, it is no different from arriving on a domestic flight--you just step off the plane and are free to go wherever you want. So, the reality is that airlines can operate international nonstops to LGA only from those locations with preclearance facilities (including, as I learned today, AUA).
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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:52 am

This is very interesting news. USAirways is really pushing these out-of-perimeter flights--something that most other airlines have left for JFK and/or EWR. Then ATA announced (and cancelled) service from LGA to SFO. I wonder what the desire is to do this.
Even in USAIRs heyday at LGA, they never pushed the perimeter rule. The rule was put in place to force traffic to JFK. In theory, it's a dated rule. LGA is now filled up and there is a need--drastic need for JFK even without the rule.
Does anyone else see the possibility of a breakdown of this rule and LGA and JFK operating as two stand-alone airports because I sure do.

Any thoughts?

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RE: US Airways Announces LGA-AUA/STT

Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:41 am

I can't see the perimeter rule being scrapped as long as LGA is still slot-controlled. The reason is that US (and to a lesser extent everyone else) would use many of their slots to fly to outside-perimeter destinations, in the process decimating service to smaller communities. And Congress loves service to small communities.

What I can see happening is the creation of a limited number of outside-perimeter slot exemptions, à la DCA. However, US lobbied incredibly hard for those to be included in the Vision 100 bill, but they were unsuccessful.
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