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Concorde Crash-Professional Till To The End!

Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:45 am

Hi all
maybe you are interesting about this article from a German magazine!
From the Voice Recorder off the Flight Air France 4590!

Flight cleared for takeoff at 4:42.17 p.m.
Controller:Air France 4590,runway 26 right,wind zero 90 knots,authorised takeoff
Co-pilot:4590 taking off 26 right(sound of switch)
Pilot:Is everyone ready?
Pilot:Up to 100,150(followed by unclear words,sound of switch)Top(noise similar to engines increasing power)
Unidentified voice on radio channel:Go on, Christian!
Mechanic:We have four heated up(sound of switch)
Co-pilot:100 knots
Mechanic:Four green
Co-pilot:V one(Low-frequency noise)
Co-pilot:Watch out
Controller:Concorde zero...4590,you have flames(unclear)you have flames behind you!!-Unidentified voice(simultaneously on radio)Right(background noise changes,sound of switch)
Co-pilot:Well received>
Mechanic:Breakdown,eng...breakdown engine two(two sounds of switch,followed by fire alarm!)
Unidentified voice on radio:It`s burning badly,huh
Mechanic:Cut engine two
Pilot:Engine fire procedure(sound of switch,end of ringing)
Co-pilot:Warning,the airspeed indicator,the airspeed indicator,the airspeed indicator(sound of switch,gong)
Person in control tower:It`s burning badly and I`m not sure it`s coming from the engine(switch sound similar to fire extinguisher handle being activated)
Pilot:Gear on the way up
Controller:4590,you have strong flames behind you
Mechanic:The gear(alarm,similar to toilet smoke alert)
Controller:Beginning reception of a Middle Marker
Co-Pilot:yes,well received
Mechanic:The gear,no(Gong)
Controller:So,at your convenience,you have priority to land
Co-pilot:No(two switch noises)
Pilot:Gear(unclear)coming up
Co-pilot:Well received(firealarm,gong,three switch sounds)
Co-pilot:I`m trying(unclear)
Mechanic:I`m hitting
Pilot:Are(unclear)you cutting engine two(end of smoke alarm)
Mechanic:I`ve cut it
Controller:End reception Middle Marker
Co-pilot:The airspeed indicator(sound of switch,end of ringing)
Co-pilot:The gear won`t come up(fire alarm rings)
Aircraft instrument:Whoop whoop pull up(GPWS alarm,gong)
Aircraft instrument:Whoop whoop pull up
Co-pilot:The airspeed indicator
Aircraft instrument:Whoop whoop pull up(GPWS alarm)
Fire service leader:De Gaulle tower fire service leader
Controller:Fire service leader,uh....the Concorde,I don`t know ist intentions,get yourself in position near the south doublet(sound of switch)
Fire service leader:De Gaulle tower from fire service leader authorisation to enter 26 right
Co-pilot:Le Bourget,Le Bourget,Le Bourget
Pilot:Controller:Fire service leader,correction,the Concorde is returning to runway zero nine in the opposite direction
Pilot:No time,no(unclear)
Co-pilot:Negative,we`re trying Le Bourget(four switch sounds)
Fire service leader:De Gaulle tower from fire service leader,can you give me the situation of the Concorde(two gongs and sound of switch,followed by another switch and sounds likened to objects being moved)
Pilot:"unclear,sounds like exertion"
Pilot:"unclear,sounds like exertion"
Pilot:"unclear,sounds like exertion"

Last sound noted on transcript at 4:44:30:18 p.m
Recording ends at 4:44:31:16 p.m

God bless them all!!

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RE: Concorde Crash-Professional Till To The End!

Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:59 am

Well, yes and no. The flight engineer shit down an engine without being asked to do so by the skipper first. The aircraft was four tonnes overweight and took off with a tailwind. So yes I agree that no-one was panicking or whatever, but I don't think the accident report made very happy reading for Air France.
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RE: Concorde Crash-Professional Till To The End!

Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:04 am

I have to agree with Cedarjet. Over weight and taking off with a tailwind, not something that makes any emergency easy to overcome. But then hindsite is always 20-20.

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RE: Concorde Crash-Professional Till To The End!

Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:07 am

I remember I saw that flight on my list for the return to Paris. It was an unusual departure that never made my shift at JFK. We only had the 8am departure. At around 4pm EST I was called by my dispatcher and told the flight was canceled. I didn't find out till later when I asked someone at AF what happened. That was a sad day.
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RE: Concorde Crash-Professional Till To The End!

Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:39 am

The aircraft was four tonnes overweight

two tons... one of fuel, and 1900lb of luggage.

Also, odd how everyone seems to forget the most blatant negligence of all involved in this crash-- the lack of a front center bogie spacer.
Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre c'est impossible sans Concorde!

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