GLAGAZ
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Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:03 am

Zoom have so far had a big effect on low cost travel across the pond from GLA and LGW to Canada. Just wondering if Zoom's flights are being received as well in Canada as they are over here, apparently over 6000 tickets have been sold already.
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yvr1968
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:07 am

I would think it has been received well. They announced not too long ago an increase in flights from Western Canada to the UK from their original summer schedule. However, that may be from more UK interest than Canadian interest. I am not too sure.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:10 am

Like most LCC carriers, I have found that most of them time when I was looking or prices on Zoom flights, they have been far from low cost pricing.

It is easy to say that your ticket is $99 each way, but when you look at it is $417 one way and $379 the other, and then they add tax onto that total, then it isn't really what they advertised in the first place. Secondly, they advertised that they have more room than the majors, but when you look into it, they actually have less room than the majors, unless you pay extra for an economy plus type of seat. Then they only fly Thurs-Sun, making them no different than the charters that already do these trips, with low pitch, low costs and limited schedules

While at the end of the day, the prices are still reasonable, they are nothing new.

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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:13 am

I am hoping to travel with zoom soon, £89 one-way aint that bad for a trip over the atlantic. And apparently their service aint too shabby either. Hopefully they expand on their services from the UK and offer more destinations in Canada and the USA.
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yvr1968
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:17 am

I wouldn't expect too much more expansion to more destinations in Canada. There aren't that many places left to fly trans-Atlantic into. As for destinations in the U.S.A, Zoom is a Canadian carrier. Don't expect any U.S. destinations.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:21 am

They are a business, this generaly means they want to make money. So by offering flights to the US. they will do that.
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RE: Zooms Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:42 am

GLAGAS they have a Canadian aoc so they would need 5th freedom rights but I think it would be very easy to access as the owner of zoom is Scottish so they could have to aoc like easy with there Swiss and British one that the only way they can do USA flights. It is a very real consideration gla-usa with zoom as the two guys involved seem to no what mobilises the Scottish traveler to book flu with them as zoom, go travel direct and direct holidays before the,m have shown. But I would imagine gla usa flights not to happen till after they have increases there fleet an presence in there home Canadian market they only got there 2nd 763 a month or so ago. Its still a very small airline but my new favorite.
They will most likley expand euro-canada o[[s before this happens also eg to man, fra and cdg i no they pulled cdg to montreal so the idea is there.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:44 am

welocme to a.net gaz its nice to see more people on this to support gla and post threads and info on the airport. the more flights the better from gla.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:44 am

GLAGAZ: If only the aviation business were that simple...
Sit back, relax and enjoy your flight with us today.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:46 am

I don't think they shall ever do tranatlantic flights from the USA, afterall, they are a Canadian airline and no American airlines are doing Canada transatlantic aer they. And it's not like Zoom are a major!

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RE: Zoom's Impact

Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:33 pm

ZOOM does not have the support of the Travel Agency business in Canada, which still handles the bulk of ticket sales in the country. They stated categorically that they were bypassing the Travel Agent and going direct to the public. They have tried working with a Tour Operator (Intair) whcih sells to the the travel agents but the Agents are smart enough not to buy through them.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:28 pm

One person is saying the airline is Canadian, the other scottish! Can anyone clearify this?
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:29 pm

scf,

As far as I am aware they are a Canadian airline, set up by two Scottish brothers.

Gusty
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:13 am

Zoom is a Canadian airline based in Ottawa. Does anyone know if they are starting flights this summer to Montreal? It's been an on again, off again story. I first heard Paris was their destination then it was cancelled. On a radio show I heard they were coming afterall. YUL appears on their website but I didn't see any flights.. but I have seen television advertising for flights to the UK so it's kinda confusing what's going on with them here..
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:31 am

Ok hears a round up of zooms owners history in travel business. They set up direct holidays in the same format as go travel direct is the now no airline but. Basically no travel agent so cheaper holidays as middle man is cut out. They sell business to airtours now my travel and is still very profitable. Set up in GLA BTW. They have now re-entered the Scottish market with 1 bro running zoom and 1 running go travel direct both operate in Canada also I belief its a proven strategy that works and is standing the cores of time. So with there ex GLA-Canada- carbine services doing so well and such a good Moloch of the Scottish Pritchard the gal amorist zoom expanding some 6000 tickets already sold by zoom on schedules flights.

Zoom have already added extra frequinces this summer from gla and have anced in adition winter flights to vancover and toronto they are doing fantasticley well and i cant see these shrewed business men wasting and opportunity to make money from gla to else were usa maybe 1 of the places and perhapps smaller craft doing charters to euro sun spots fro go travel direct?
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:47 am

Zoom is a canadian airline, run by a a scottish CEO.

I do infact plan to try there international service YYC-LGW in the summer.
Hopefully the fares will be as low as they say it will be.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:18 am

Doug, I read last week end in Logimonde that ZOOM is starting 12 weekly flights between YUL/YYZ and CDG. It was published by Logimonde but the news came from a France travel magazine.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:50 am

Doug, I read last week end in Logimonde that ZOOM is starting 12 weekly flights between YUL/YYZ and CDG.

Marcel, this would require 2 dedicated 763's. I thought their entire fleet will only be 2 763's this summer? 12 flights on YYZ/YUL-CDG seems a lot.

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RE: Zoom's Impact

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:31 pm

Neil, I agree with you. I posted the article last week. I will try to find it and re-post it. But this is exactly what it said: 12 weekly rotations YYZ/YUL-CDG.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:37 pm

 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:21 pm

Thanks for posting. 12 weekly flights seems excessive. That would flood the market.

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RE: Zoom's Impact

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:51 pm

Neil, remember that the YUL/YMX to France market is floded anyway..... Tous essaient de tirer leur epingle du jeu.......
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:20 am

Zoom will have their 3rd 763 on hand in time for the launch of Canada-UK flights in May. Zoom is going to do what the Air Canadas of the world either won't or can't. That is, offer low-frequency transatlantic service to multiple destinations not just from YYZ/YUL/YVR, but also to the YOW/YEG/YHZ's of the world and maybe even YWG someday too.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:19 am

ZOOM would be crazy not to attack the YUL/YMX-France market.

Here is a very interesting link. Quebec tour companies and travel agencies are freaking thinking ZOOM could invade the Quebec market:

 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:23 am

 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:38 am

That little rant in La Presse just sounds like a bunch of travel agents and tour operators running scared. Go Travel & Zoom are to a certain degree revolutionizing the leisure market. Before Go Travel, the leisure market in YOW was grossly neglected and underserved. Since their arrival, now everybody seems to want a piece of the action.

I'd love to see Zoom add YUL & YYZ to CDG, and then maybe a year or two later follow-up with YOW and YQB.

Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention YYC with my last post.
 
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RE: Zoom's Impact

Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:29 am

"Running scared"........And they are right. Go Travel Direct "might" be offering good deals for the consumers but also doing very bad for the traditional travel agents. Working as a travel agent in the past, let me tell you that customers need a little more than a web site and "supposed to be" advisers. Why should a Go Travel Direct customer have to run to the traditional travel agencies to get more info on the package they just bought from G.T.D.? (Read the article) L'agent de voyage traditionel est une espece en voie de disparition. Blame it on all the G.T.D's and the Internet.

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