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British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:20 pm

Hello!!!

Does anyone know why the winglet is missing on this plane???!!!

Even if you can´t see it I can tell you that the left side is definately OK!


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British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:57 pm

I saw the same in an Iberia A-320 that was about to take off from Dublin to Madrid. Some weeks later I asked an Airbus Iberia's captain and he told me that if there's a problem with a winglet you can remove it and fly without it.

I suppose that this annormal configuration will cause some yaw inflight....

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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:19 pm

747s can fly with a winglet missing too.....


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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:56 pm

I caught a similar pic of Air Canada's 744 missing a winglet last year.

Apparently (747-400) there is at least a 2% significant fuel increase if one of these 6 ft winglets is missing! - quite costly i would imagine.



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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:43 pm

Also G-EUPD has this "problem"  Big grin


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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:10 am

Is it really a problem though? Will it be fixed?

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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:22 am

Levo,

Is it really a problem though?

Obviously not a big one.


Will it be fixed?

Eventually, Yes. It may not be the most urgent item on the to-do list though.
 
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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:26 am

looks like the BA planes have this problem a lot. A saw(on a pic) a B744 with missing winglet
 
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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:05 am

I flew on G-EUPD LHR-MAD last year. I seem to remember that someone posted here saying BA was testing the fuel efficency of having winglets.

 
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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:12 am

Its one of those minor things that can wait till they have a while to get it done...



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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:41 am

I saw a BA A319 at CGN in early February that also had a wingfence missing. No idea what reg. that plane had, if it was the same then it has had it missing for at least four weeks now. So doesn't seem to be too much of a problem...

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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:15 am

Sure I saw a photo somehwre (maybe in AW?) of a 738 (Eurocypria?) that was flying without a winglet...
 
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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:39 am

Not having one winglet or wingtip fence certainly does produce a yawing moment "around" the tip with no winglet, however this obviously isn't a huge problem and can be left alone for a while. It's funny though, BA always seems to have this going on...

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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:10 am

If memory serves me correctly, there was a 737NG that had "winglets" but one of them (I believe the left one) some how fell off and they received permission from Boeing to fly the plane (it was in the UK or Ireland, I believe) without passengers, but I am not sure if this is the case with Airbus (no pax).

I will try to find the picture.

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RE: British Airways A319 With Only One Winglet!

Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:18 am

I was on a United A320 while a wingtip fence was off. At the end of the flight we asked the pilots about it and they said the only difference it makes is a little more fuel burn.

By the way Airbus call them "wingtip fences"

The little winglets that extend above and below the wing (on the A32x family) are called fences:


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Normal upright ones are just called winglets:


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