mrwayne
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Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:22 am

How many of you use public transport to get to the aiport?

What do you think about the idea of airlines offering subsidised train / bus travel in order to cut the car congestion on the motorways / airport car parks?

In your experience is it quicker to drive or use public transport?
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:25 am


Hush! Public transportation is shunned in Texas. We love our big, gas-guzzling SUVs and pick-em-up trucks.  Big grin
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:26 am

It really depends on the airport, and where you live in relation to it. In the USA, most airports have appalling public transport. Even SFO with the new BART connection. It stops at every station enroute, thereby creating a fairly slow journey. In Europe by contrast, many airports have excellent public transport. I don't think I would ever in my right mind drive from downtown Paris out to the airport when I can take the train, but then again with the frequency of strikes...
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:30 am

Thats a great idea, on a different note BA are offering free regional connecting flights to London when you book which could also cut down on congestion?
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:57 am

I took the train to MDW when I visited Chicago a couple years ago. It was pretty convenient. It did stop everywhere along the way, but I got there with time to spare. Some people have complained that it's quite a hike from the station to the terminal, but I didn't think it was bad.
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:04 pm

I would take public transport instead of paying for parking. However this is what I would have to do to get to SAN from my house,

Bus (Chula Vista Transit) to "H" St trolley station
Trolley to Downtown San Diego.
Then lastly another Bus from Downtown to SAN terminal.

All in all it would add another 60 minutes to my trip vs a 15 minute car ride.
 
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RE: Getting To The Airport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:14 pm

"What do you think about the idea of airlines offering subsidized train / bus travel in order to cut the car congestion on the motorways / airport car parks?"

What an absolute ludicrous idea! Why should an airline be responsible for my pre/post departure travel arrangements? What next, should the grocery store provide a chef to cook the food we buy from them? get real!
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:18 pm

What next, should the grocery store provide a chef to cook the food we buy from them?

I've shopped at stores that do this, actually, for a fee. They also have wine stewards and home economists in the store to help you plan your meal.

Jacksonville once had a city bus that went from the airport to downtown (a distance of about 15 miles). Nobody rode on it, so they stopped it.
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:29 pm

What an absolute ludicrous idea! Why should an airline be responsible for my pre/post departure travel arrangements? What next, should the grocery store provide a chef to cook the food we buy from them? get real!

Airlines perhaps shouldn't, but airports probably should, considering that they are generally public fixtures.

That being said, I'd imagine some airline could make a killing in NYC, say, if it offered a free bus service for its passengers. Imagine JetBlue (just off the top of my head) offering a bus from some midtown Manhattan point directly to its JFK terminal, for its passengers only. You might see that as a huge competitive edge.
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:34 pm

Frontier (the original) did something like this back in the 80s in Boulder and Ft Collins. When you booked your reservation, you actually booked two more segments, for the same fare, that covered your bus transport from downtown Boulder or Ft Collins to DEN. Both cities being college towns, it was a great convienence for us college kids that didn't have cars yet.
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:36 pm

I never take the public transportation. The aircraft always land outside my door to pick me up when I'm going flying  Big grin
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:44 pm

Im using public transport to get to gatwick for my flight.

Got to take a train from Grantham (town) to london
Transfer to, um, errr, cant recall teh station but its where the gatwick express train runs from.

then i will get the express bus back to london and train back up to home
Where does the time go???
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:28 pm

If it gets them more customers, airlines may well subsidize your transfer. This is on par with offering free connecting service for a long-haul flight.
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:26 pm

FR offer slightly discounted tickets for the Stansted Express, although bearing in mind their business philosophy I doubt they'd do it if there wasn't something substantial in it for them.

I normally fly from MAN, and I'd love to be able to take public transport there instead of going in the car. They have just opened a multi-million pound integrated transport interchange to encourage people to do just that. Three things, however, prevent me from doing this:

1) Normally I'm travelling with family, and the amount of luggage my mum and my nana bring along would make it too difficult to carry between us.
2) I'm not convinced that public transport in the UK is entirely reliable and I wouldn't want to miss a flight because of it. I trust the car a bit more.
3) The costs of airport parking for two weeks vs. return train travel for 5/6 people are very similar, but the car is much more convenient.

Having said that, I have been on the long-distance Central Trains services to Stansted a few times, and I've always allowed a few hours extra in case anything should go wrong - and ended up arriving at the terminal over 2 hours before check-in even opened!

If I'm taking a day out at the Aviation Viewing Park at MAN, I will always take the train and bus.

EDIT: By the way, Trekster, the Gatwick Express runs from Victoria.

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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:23 pm

I don't know if they still do this, but a KLM ticket in the Netherlands was also your train ticket regardless of where you started your journey in the country. They had a deal with the Dutch railways. It's a great idea, especially because you can simply go to your train without having to queue to buy a train ticket with all your baggage in tow!
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:30 pm

I used to use public transport to get to LGW when I lived in Twickenham (train from Strawberry Hill to Clapham, then onto the Connex crap thing to LGW, usually only 2 stops so it was reasonable, used to take about an hour overall). Clapham Junction however, is no joke if you have heavy luggage - it was built during the steam age before they invented escalators.

LHR I used to cab to, as the buses were dreadful and very unreliable.

NCE has only the odd bus to the airport, but very inconvenient from where I live, so I drive. Cabs are a complete ripoff, 2 weeks airport parking costs slightly less than a cab ride there and back.

AMS was always great, tram then train, always really quick, I only used to take a cab if I had a lot of luggage.

SYD is great, now that they have built the train line out there - in my day it used to have to be the green and yellow bus, or a cab.
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fritzi
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:38 pm

If I go somewhere over a one or two nights, I usually drive there myself. Otherwise I call a Limousine Service that I have a discounted price on.

If I would take public transport to the airport, I would first have to take a bus, then a subway, and then finally the CAT airport train. That would take me about 1:30 hours instead of 30 minutes.
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:52 pm

"Got to take a train from Grantham (town) to london
Transfer to, um, errr, cant recall teh station but its where the gatwick express train runs from."


Simplest and quickest way from Grantham is to go to London Kings Cross as normal, then walk 200m to Kings Cross Thameslink station which has fast and frequent Thameslink trains to Gatwick. You save an average 25min doing it this way over transferring to Victoria for Gatwick Express and it's often a bit cheaper too.

I used to be GNER's pricing analyst (GNER = train operator Grantham to london) and often had business near LGW. Rarely did it any other way.

Hope this helps
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:58 pm

depends on the type of public transport available. In paris, there is the suburban train (RER) that can take you to the airport. very reliable and less likely to be subjected to congestion as with cars on the freeway. for Orly and CDG terminal 2 the stops are right there (or connect to a fast shuttle train service in the case of orly). For CDG 1 it is a bit of a pain because you have to wait for the bus to shuttle you and it may not be too too frequent.
In most european cities I guess trains are available which is not the case in the US; I remember biting my nails and everything else in the taxi from NYC to JFK as the freeway was clogged. The shuttle is great but still subject to unexpected congestions (I have not been back since they put the new metro service).
Oh I forget, of course in France there is a lot of strikes: the RER may be on strike, or somebody at the airport is likelty to be too.
 
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RE: Getting To The Aiport On Time

Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:07 pm

It depends on what an aiport is.  Big grin

I always drive to the airport.
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