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Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:29 am

Iberia's new Beirut service that was scheduled to start on April 26 is being postponed until September 1. Does anyone have any idea why?

Seems kind of strange to start a new route during the low season after the strong summer season ends.

The schedule remains the same however.

Madrid (MAD) - Beirut (BEY)


Beirut (BEY) - Madrid (MAD)


It did seem that it is too late to start a flight in April by just announcing it recently. Although I find it a bit strange that they are starting it at the end of the summer season...

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:31 am

I think it depends of A320's fleet available.This year Airbus will deliver 3/4 A-320 to Iberia.At present IB has 60 A-320.
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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:57 pm

That's another possibility.

Does anyone know how many business and economy seats Iberia has on its A320s?

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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:54 pm

Iberia is known for its uncomfortable cabins. They have 42 first class seats and 105 economy class seats on their A320s. Thats a total of 147 seats.

Very comparable to other airlines such as Lufthansa's A320s (150 total seats), and BA's A320s (145 seats).

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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:17 pm

"IB IS KNOWN FOR ITS UNCOMFORTABLE CABINS (...) A TOTAL OF 147 SEATS.VERY COMPARABLE TO OTHER AIRLINES SUCH AS LH,150 SEATS AND BA,145 SEATS"
Do not contradict yourself,MEA321.Or for you LH and BA are too "uncomfortables" or you are difficulty yourself  Nuts
By the way...How many times have you flown in Iberia?
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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:21 pm

Look,
all those airline's seating suck compared to MEA. MEA have a strech of the A320, they have the A321 and they only have 149 seats (31 cedar class and 118 "tourist" class)
So I guess MEA have the one of best seating for a narrow body
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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:28 pm

Anxebla,

Something I didn't mention in my post is that LH offers between 134 and 150 seats on its A320s. It depends on the aircraft. Whereas IB only has a common cabin lay out of 147 seats on all of its A320s.

BA's seats are much more comfortable then those of IB also. That is why I made the statement in the first place.

I have flown IB 4 times Intra-Europe. They got me where I needed to go, but thats about it.

Please, don't misunderstand me though. Everyone has their own opinions. I am sure you are very proud of your country's airline, and you have a lot of good experiences with them.  Smile

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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:01 am

BA is a very good carrier,but for intra-european flights I prefer IB or AF.
In a trip MAD-LHR always I'll try fly by IB.I don't like some of BA's leather seats


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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:53 am

British Mediterranean has only 124 seats in its A320s and 149 seats in its A321s (same as MEA).

They are very comfortable..........

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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:06 pm

ANY airline in the world, even the worst one, would make money on flights to & from Lebanon during the high season MAY / OCTOBER, as there is such a lack of seat offered, and such a strong demand from the Lebanese diaspora around the globe... It is very strange that an airline like IB didn't do its best to start this service BEFORE the season... It's like starting operating special ski charters to the Alps resorts in July !  Nuts
 
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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:16 pm

It shouldn't be an availability of A-320s question. Even in the busiest time of the day for medium distance flights, the morning (between 07.00 and 11.00), when the airframe is still coming back from BEY and theoretically needed most for the current schedule, there are still a dozen of MD-80s, 757s and Airbuses left over loitering at M AD not doing anything. Other airlines like KLM use their 737s on BEY and other near-east routes between 19.00 and 06.00 to keep them busy during the night, while they fly to M AD, LHR, FCO etc. during daytime.
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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:07 am

I got an email from Iberia, the service WILL start in September.....

It was probably an error when they had it as April....

I agree, it would have been better if they started the flight sometime in the summer...

September is a relatively weak month.

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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:13 am

Most likely the postponment of the introduction of flights until September is due to the entry of new aircraft which is not scheduled or has been delayed until then. Remember, starting up a new station requires many factors....hiring personnel, goverment rights, aircraft, etc. Im not suprised that it has been postponed until Sept. 01st.
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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:18 am

You're right,IB340600
By the way.... Do you work by IB in JFK?
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RE: Iberia's New Beirut Service Postponed To September

Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:01 am

I hate airlines that cram their Eco class. That's why I will never try a LCC on anything longer than 2 hours and will never fly AA eco class. That's also why I love MEA's eco and Cedar Class.
When I was flying on AA's first class it felt like MEA Eco, which is still good!
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