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Changes Going On @ LAX

Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:35 pm

This was discussed somewhat recently in a thread titled "Branson approahces Schwarzenegger" or something to that effect...asking the governor if he would prepare LAX for the A380.

I don't know how recent this is but I was just browsing www.laxmasterplan.org and the changes they are going to be make are interesting.

Sorry if this has already been discussed recently.

Here is a quick synopsis of the reading:

Changes:

1. Centre Taxiways to improve air field safety

2. More gate space to accomodate 78.9 MAP

3. Reconfiguring Bradley so that it becomes "capable of handling wide-body aircraft" by using the existing remote stands on the westend

4. Satelitte Concourse to accomodate relocated gates

5. Demolish parking structures and add terminal buildings and add more screenings, this area will be CTA Central Terminal Area, only flyaway buses and service/emergency vehicles will be able to access this area

6. West employee parking structure (new)

7. Ground Transportation centre where drop offs will be allowed. Passengers will be ushered to the CTA from this area on an "automated people mover" which will take 5 minutes.

Anyway, all this info is on www.laxmasterplan.org under the Alternatives Under Study tab -> Recommended Alternative.

Last I checked, Bradley was already capable of handling "wide-body" aircraft unless 747s, 767s, 777's and A340s are not wide body aircrafts anymore  Smile (n.b. I saw the SQ A345 at LAX this afternoon. Those engines are big)

I guess the A380 will be accomodated at those remote stands after they add gates. I wonder if they will connect these stands to the main passenger terminal.

Cali always wants to be at the forefront of everything and I guess this is the way they are doing it at LAX. It seems like it is only going to complicate matters, but I suppose in the end doing anything in the name of safety is OK.

In any event, does anyone know when this plan will be implemented? LAX will hardly be ready for the A380 by next year.

how big of a deal is this, really? Aren't airlines such as KE, VS, AF, LH? QF? SQ? all planning to operate the A380 to LAX? Things could get disastrous if they had what, 7 A380s all landing within a short time frame.

Presuming that I haven't forgotten anyone and I haven't presumed incorrectly about KE AF VS LH QF SQ...so if AF VS LH and SQ are all there at one time and QF and KE are there earlier in the morning, that is still a fair amount of passengers flooding into the terminal buildings, going through immigration, getting their bags, etc. System overflow?


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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:50 am

The topic of LAX upgrades got a lot of play, and got somewhat controversial at times in the following thread, which we ran a couple of months ago. Enjoy!

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1295006

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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:30 am

LAX will hardly be ready for *any* kind of growth until politicians in Los Angeles stop pandering to NIMBYs in the surrounding communities while entertaining pipe dream notions of relieving traffic at other area airports already hemmed in by development and neighborhood opposition.
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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:45 am

Thanks for keeping us informed of whats going on at LAXBig grin
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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:56 am

It's about time they do something with LAX. It is still in the 1980's. What the heck is that UGLY spider thing in the center of it.
 
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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:41 am

that "UGLY spider thing" is a restaurant/cafe.

I'll agree with you guys though, it still has the feel of an airport in the 1980s.
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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:06 am

I live out in Redlands (90-minute drive east of LAX) and am of the opinion that many of these international operations would benefit greatly from a shift to Ontario (ONT), which, in my opinion, is a heavily underutilized resource. It seems that it would be a small matter to demolish it's older, unused terminal, relocate some parking lots, and build a new international terminal.

Also, ONT's ground traffic is but a small fraction of LAX's. There are not enough profanities in the English language to accurately describe the traffic in and around LAX.
 
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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:33 am

That 'spider thing' or resturant is what make LAX what it is.....its what seperates it from other airport.....Or should all airports look like ATL and DIA?
 
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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:43 am

It's called the 'Theme Biulding',the restaurant is 'Encounters'.
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RE: Changes Going On @ LAX

Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:55 am

And when the observation deck on top of the so-called "ugly spider thing" is open, you have one of the better overall views of airports and airplanes going.


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