markk
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Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:57 am

I must have been asleep at the wheel, but when did airlines (specifically CO) return to non-plastic knives during first class meal service?
 
FlySSC
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 1:56 am

most airlines returned to "normal" knives on board... and not only in First class.

Air France re-introduced normal knives since Feb.1st in all classes...

This shows how this ridiculous it was to replace them by plastic knives !!!
especially when you know that most of the time, the plastic were more pointed and were cutting much better than the metallic ones !
 
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:00 am

CO is back to all-metal cutlery, probably around Thanksgiving or so they brought them back. The plastic knives were not bad at all, but I definitely have broken more than a few cutting the "Sterling Silver" steaks on transcons and BF flights while they stocked the picnic knives.
 
Brick
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:40 am

I had 2 American Airline flights in first class a couple of weeks ago. I got plastic cutery during the meal service.

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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:43 am

IMHO, and as I have said in other posts, metal cutlery or not, you still won't get through the reinforced door to the cockpit. So it's all the same to me.
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flyingdoctorwu
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:04 am

I flew KLM Y class over Christmas to AMS from EWR and they were still using the plastic cutlery.. they I flew NW FC in January and they were using metal cutlery... I'm not sure if there is a clear cut policy laid out in stone..

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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:13 am


DL still uses plastic and paper napkins. At this point, I doubt it is safety related. It's probably cheaper to buy plastic and paper than to have to wash the metal and linens.
 
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:55 am

The ban on metal eating utensils on board commercial airliners was lifted fairly recently. Many airlines have returned to silverware, while other carriers (as AA) are still evaluating their options.
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:42 am

Northwest went back to metal utensils (knives about as sharp as school scissors) in September. However, certain caterers still include plastic knives with first class meals. For instance, last week on NW1653 BWI-MSP we had plastic knives with the breakfast service. Later out of MSP, everything seemed metal-normal.  Smile

 
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:53 am

SAA has had steel cutlery in all classes for a long time now on international, but on domestic it's pot luck, can be that or plastic. The thing that amazes me is that the cabin crew don't check to make sure you return everything, I know they're pushed for time on domestic but on an 11 hour flight JNB-LHR surely they can check that you don't have a knife stashed down the side of your seat for use later....
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KKMolokai
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:11 am

Paper napkins? That's pushing it, isn't it? I'm hoping that's in coach only!
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kalakaua
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:58 am

AQ has silverware throughtout First Class AND throughtout COACH!
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deltaffindfw
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:06 am


KK - that is NOT in coach. DL uses paper napkins in FIRST. Ugh!!!

In fact, for a short while, DL didn't even use linens at the 'tablecloth' - those were paper also. On my last two flights (Wed and Fri), they put the nice warm roll on a piece of circular paper instead of a plate! Also, the salt and pepper shakers have been replaced with tiny packets - smaller than what I can get a McDonalds.
 
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:32 am

I don't know why they bothered with the cosmetic show of changing knives from metal to plastic when you could still get hold of glass bottles in duty-free shops.

Faced with a crazed maniac with a broken bottle I'd do as they asked!!
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:40 pm

Last week I flew Amsterdam - Seoul with KLM and we got metal cutlery, 5 weeks before with Korean Air it was a metal fork but plastik knife.
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AirframeAS
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:53 pm

Its good to know that the F.A.A. and the TSA is allowing real utensils on a/c once again! That is if the airline can afford for food.
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kilavoud
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:24 pm

I have got always metal knives when flying on SQ or LH. If somebody wants really to kill another somedbody, a mere handkerchief would meet the purpose. Excuse me for the grusesome detail.

Havn't you hear about "The Confessions of a Thug" by Taylor Meadows ?

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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:31 pm

And some sanity returns to the aviation world.

Now we just need to give security back to the airlines where it belongs.

OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
 
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RE: Knives In First Class?

Sun Mar 07, 2004 9:35 pm

Speaking of security here in the U.S. do you guys think once Bush is out of office will the TSA survive? I think once Bush is gone either this year if he doesnt get elected for a 2nd term or in 4 years when his time is up, the TSA will be gone.
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