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Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:11 am

I was amused to read today on Ryanair's punctuality website that a rotation between Leeds Bradford and Dublin was delayed due to 'unscheduled aircraft cleaning'. I wonder what happened to necessitate this unprecedented event?
 
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Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:14 am

Maybe they had an incident with a minature pony on board...
 
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:12 am

Maybe the new pay-to-use toilets were too expensive for some of the passengers...
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:50 am

Maybe the miniature pony didn't have enough to use the pay-to-use toilets.
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:58 am

My guess would be that passengers made the bad move of sampling Ryanair's sandwiches and drink (particularly the "coffee", i.e. hot water); the stomach-upset induced by this was then aggravated beyond the point of no return by the pilot throwing the passengers round corners at taxi speeds of nearly 50 mph... and unfortunately for Ryanair, because of Mr. O'Leary's bright idea of removing seat-back pockets, no sick bags were available, causing there to be a nice mess for the cleaning staff to deal with Big grin
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:54 am

WOW.

Is this an awful airline or something ? It must be, as I have gathered my impressions from a number of posts! Did something make the airline this way ?

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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:05 am

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Hahaha. I suppose it depends on your viewpoint. Self-important VIPs who travel everywhere in business class on full-service airlines would wonder what they'd let themselves in for the moment they boarded a Ryanair aircraft. However, for people who want to get from A to B with no fuss and absolute rock-bottom prices (most of the time), Ryanair is unbeatable. It's not an awful airline, just extremely "low-cost"! I wouldn't hesitate to fly with them, but I can't help but be amused at some of the cost-cutting schemes they come up with.
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:38 am

I'll say extremely low cost



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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:17 pm

Whoa, they even have tray tables!?!
 
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:37 pm

Nworlnsbearcub,
Europeans seemed to have a love-hate relationship with Ryanair. They all love it because it could be rediculously cheap - they often "give away" thousands free flights, you just pay the taxes. On the other hand it's not terribly reliable, the f/a's service is poor (maybe because of low pay?), they land in god-knows-where airports, etc etc. My experience with Ryanair hasn't been too bad, partly because I always choose to fly with Easyjet instead. My brother seemed to have bad experiences every time he used Ryanair - cancelled flight, long-delayed flight, rude f/a and the last time he flew, the plane landed in LGW rather than in STN as scheduled.

[Edited 2004-03-08 04:39:12]
 
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Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:00 pm

My experience with Ryanair hasn't been too bad, partly because I always choose to fly with Easyjet instead.

Brilliant post.
 
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:47 pm

KEno

HAHA........  Big thumbs up

I have tried Ryanair before. And it is exactly what people say. Either you love them or you hate them. Personally I hate them. I just wanted to se how it was like flying them since they are always telling in every occasion that they are much better then many of the major airlines in Europe. But I disagree with that. But that is just my point of view.
 
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:38 pm

"On the other hand it's not terribly reliable."

WHAT?????????????????????! Biggest load of crap I've read in the past 10 minutes! It is EXTREMELY reliable - how many FR flights are cancelled? EXTREMELY FEW! How many are late? VERY, VERY FEW! I have flown FR MANY TIMES, and only been delayed twice - once due to a SNOW STORM (30 minute delay, only arrived 10 minutes late) and another for 20 minutes. Wow. I bet you a pound FR is the most reliable and punctual low-cost airline in Europe. It's also Europe's most profitable airline - of all airlines. Yeah, really bad.
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:48 pm

Pe@rson

You are right about the punctuality and the profit. They are actually no. 1 in almost everything. They even beats the US airlines. I got a chock when I saw that.


Ryanair No. 1 for punctuality
% On Time*

Ryanair 93.11%
SAS 90.8%
Lufthansa 85.4%
Air France 85.1%
British Airways 82.5%
Easyjet 77.0%
Alitalia 69.7%

Airline % OT Rank
Ryanair 91.0 1
Southwest 86.3 2
Jetblue 84.3 3
United 83.3 4
Northwest 82.9 5
Delta 82.3 6
Continental 82.0 7
America West 82.0 8
American 81.7 9
Alaska 81.0 10
US Airways 79.7 11
American Eagle 78.6 12
 
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:54 pm

Don't know if anyone remembers the FR Cabin Maintenance Van that used to do the rounds at DUB in the mid 90's - the van was in bits!

Perhaps its still there - but FR clean their aircraft during the day - never!
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:45 pm

"They are actually no. 1 in almost everything."

I have been telling people that for sometime!

Business is generally based on perception. For example, you perceive firm A to offer a superior, more highly respected product or service than firm B, regardless of whether it actually does or not. Businesses relish this. You might not actually know the facts, so it’s all based upon perception. It’s the same with FR. A number of people think that Ryanair’s trashy, unreliable, dirty, unprofessional, hardly ever on-time, unsuccessful, and the like. In reality, it’s extremely reliable, punctual, and, in my experience, pretty damn clean (I can’t recall seeing anything in any of the pockets or around the seats near me – even when aboard the last flight of the day). It’s also very successful and, in contrast to other airlines – even ‘traditional’ and national ones – commendably profitable. All in all, it’s quite unlike how it’s wrongly and unfortunately perceived.
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:49 pm

Maybe their on-time percentage has to do with the airports they use. No one else uses them so there is not competition for the runways or gates. Of course, it is the same air traffic system....

I'm one of those "self-important VIPs" but cut me some slack. I refuse to fly coach on mainstream airlines because full-fare coach is larceny and flying restricted tickets on a business trip is penny-wise, pound-foolish. Gotta be flexible or you risk spending ticket (and hotel) money and being a prisoner of your return flight. Deal with software (and a support desk 12 hours different in time zone who refuse to work late) and resolution always takes much longer than promised.

I won't fly United coach for love nor money but I would (and often have) flown Easyjet or Virgin Blue. I'd love to try Ryanair so long as some of those wacko airports have car rental counters.
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:01 am

"I'd love to try Ryanair so long as some of those wacko airports have car rental counters."

Yes, of course they do. Hertz will certainly be at these "wacko airports" as they're an FR partner.

"Maybe their on-time percentage has to do with the airports they use."

Yes, precisely.
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:43 pm

I have been to 2 different airports that Ryanair are flying to. And both of them had car rentals. Europcar, Avis and Hertz.
And it´s amazing consider what airports they are flying too. But Michael O´Leary is right when he says he is creating jobs in those areas FR is flying to. If it wasn´t for FR there would never be carrentals and and other activities in an airport like Stockholm/Skavsta.
 
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:12 pm

From what I have seen, FR appears to model itself on the best practice methodologies developed by US low cost carriers (southwest, jet blue)....and while some have had bad experiences with their service....and they do not offer the level of inflight comfort provided by jetblue.....their new 737s sure are nice kit to fly......

I think europeans, in general, (and I speak as one) do not have the same level of de-regulation in the airline industry.....so a low cost outfit like FR is just a different business model, providing a 'low-cost' service.....for a low cost....

Hey, if you want comfort then pay the 500-600 euro fares which incumbents like BA, LH, Alitalia and all those other government protected airlines have got away with charging for the past 20 years....

I say, bring on the competition, like FR and force the BAs, LHs and AIs of this world to compete.
 
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:54 pm

Re Ryanair's on time performance - if they flew from more major airports their on time performance would more closely match those of the majors. Let them fly out of LHR and see what that does to their times  Smile
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RE: Ryanair Cleans A Plane!

Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:11 pm

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Ryanair's on time performance - if they flew from more major airports their on time performance would more closely match those of the majors. Let them fly out of LHR and see what that does to their times

They would for sure have the same time punctuality as everybody else. But they are famous for their accurate punctuality and nothing will ever change that. I do respect that. But I think its unfair that they compare them selves with the majors that flies from more busy airports. It should be a rule against that.