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The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:22 pm


Hi!

The "shorty" DC-9-10 was not that popular in Europe at least. I know that Swissair, Iberia, KLM, Finnair and other had a few, also SAS operated the "special version" of that model, the 20 series and they used for many years. But the others never really got a lot of attention, maybe because the 30 series came right away and those airlines opted for the bigger one. But it was unusual to see the "shorty around. I remember in LIS seeing once a while KLM ones and one or twice Finnair. Another airline that operated those ones and I saw in LIS was Spantax. But even not seeing a lot of those I had the chance and I feel extremely lucky that only once I flew in one of these. It was in September 1980, I was in AMS and I had my flight reserved to LIS in a KL DC-9-30, I was there staying a few days and I found out that KL was flying everyday to MAD with the DC-9-15 so I went to KL office at AMS Airport and asked if I could change my flight and instead of flying AMS to LIS I would fly AMS-MAD-LIS and having the chance to fly the "shorty". Amazingly the lady there said yes and I changed my ticket and prayed that next day the plane to MAD would be the DC-9-15.
Next day when I arrived to AMS I got those flight sheets that AMS used to give to people and I saw that our plane for MAD was PH-DNC it was a wild excitement, I was going to fly in the "shorty"!!!!
And it was an excelent flight, the plane was quite short but very powerfull on take-off, it was full and the pilot had the door open during all the flight, when we started to descend some passengers started to buckle-out the seatbelts to see the view and then a F/A didn't have any chance but to close the cockpit door! It was a big frustration and I was very disapointed. But all came ok at the end and I'll never forget my only ride in the "shorty" with KL DC-9-15 PH-DNC.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:44 pm

I have flown on A DC9-10. NW still does operate every DC9 variat with the excpetion of the -20. The flight on the NW DC9-10 was good.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:21 am

I was fortunate enough to ride on a HA DC-9-15RC back in 1990 from HNL to OGG. You could tell that the jet was showing signs of its age inside and out. The lav in the aft section was a bit noisy, as it is for most rear-engined aircraft. The flight itself was short, <25 minutes, and uneventful, but a solid ride.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:51 am

I was fortunate enough to take an Aerocaribe DC-9-10 from MID-CUN back in 1998. It was a nice, but short, little flight across the Yucatan Peninsula.


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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:12 am

A friend and I were on a Midwest Express flight from MKE-BDL about two years ago on a DC-9-10. Even as small as that plane was, it was only half full.

Interestingly, we left MCI for MKE on an MD-80.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:25 am

Flew on a TWA DC-9-10 in 1996 from Cedar Rapids, IA (CID) to St. Louis. While the plane was full that morning, it did have a rocket like take-off. Personally it was a little weird. You have the feeling that you are in a full-sized jet, but you look back and don't see much plane behind you.

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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:57 am

Back in 2001 I flew a baby 9 on the MEM-STL leg of a STL-MSP-SAN-MEM-STL trip. Safe to say it wasn't a fun experience, I was indeed sitting right next to the left engine and whoops it quit over Carbondale, IL (20 minutes out). We landed infront of about 4 or 5 fire trucks. Great flight.  Yeah sure
 
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:52 am

Sup?

I loved the Shorty 9. I have been a flight attendant with Midwest Airlines for 18 years and we have had OUR SHARE of shorties. I loved them....small....roomy (especially when you only had 60 first class/business seats installed on it), fast and efficient. (Well, not fuel wise to say the least....). That thing would ALWAYS shoot up like a rocket and climb faster than any other plane i've been on. Im kind of sad now....won't get to fly on her anymore...we just retired our last one in January. (N700ME) which was originally the SECOND DC-9 EVER PRODUCED!!!

Oh well...I probably should get on a 30 Series soon before we retire the last of those....we have 2 -30's left in service....the Boeing 717-2BL's are here to replace the 10/30's. As far as my airline goes...My preference though to fly on/work on still remains the MD-88.

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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:06 am

I flew on a British Midland DC-9-15, from Liverpool to London Heathrow in April 1979. It was my first BMA and DC-9 flight and I remember it being a zippy little aircraft. The aircraft was leased from Finnair and was registered OH-LYB. I think this was one of the best liveries around at the time!

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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:07 am

I will be flying on the -10 for the first time on the 27th, of course on NW. I will be flying from LAX-MSP-PIT-DTW-LAX (PIT-DTW is the DC-9-10 leg). All of this in less than 24 hours, just to fly on a -10. I hear they are retiring them this year, and it is the only NW a/c I have not flown yet.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:11 am

Flew the baby -9 three times as I recall: MEM-FLL with Republic, STL-MSY with TWA, and MSY-MEM with Northwest. Sure felt like a rocketship at times. The thing I always notice is the initial climbout when the nose looks like it's pointed a little lower than it should be, almost looks like it's "crabbing" upwards.

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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:00 am

I flew on several DC-9-10's including HA from LIH-HNL back in 1987. Sunworld DC-9-10 from LAS-OAK. And NW from ICT-MEM RT during the late 1990's.
 
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:10 am

Once on NW CMH-MEM....and man, was it loud! When they started the engines & they came on, I thought to myself "This is gonna be a long flight". Once we got up, the F/A came on to make the drink announcement & the PA had a horrible feedback problem that we dealt with more than once. On landing, the reverse thrust was louder than I've ever heard it.

All in all, not a bad flight, but not a good one either.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:44 pm

I always have to do a double-take when I see a NW DC9-10 these days.

Flying the -10 was weird because it landed nose down. You had to slow to ref or below to get any kind of flare out of it. In fact, the Republic guys spread the word that if you got the stick shaker right as the main gear touched down, it was a perfect landing.

Never tried that, though! Big grin

It had a Cessna 152 stall vane on the left wing. Pretty high tech!TC
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:53 pm

Flew a Delta -10 from ATL to DTW in Jan69. boarded from the rear airstairs at the old Hartsfield. Got there that day from the old TPA on a CV880. o the good old days
 
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:59 pm

MKE-CLE, Midwest Express DC9-10, last minute sub for our DC0-30. Flight was extremely turbulent through the thunderstrorms we encountered over the Great Lakes.
 
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:08 pm

I'm old and probably rode on every airline operating the "baby 9" during the 1970s. Most though were Hughes Airwest. For some strange reason though, I seemed to always get seated in the last row between the engine and a screaming baby. Somehow I was able to help calm the baby, but I could never get that darned engine to move so I could see out the window.

I wonder why I have fond memories of those flights yet despise the DC-9-80?
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:09 am

Flew NW DC9-10 more times that I can remember.

The main difference from a customer perspective is there is no forward lav on this version for NW, just 2 in the very rear.

A few routes that I remember flying with NW on the -10: IAD-DTW, IAD-MSP, MSP-MEM, MEM-DTW, DTW-STL, DTW-IND...like I said, there's more, I just can't remember.

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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:21 am

One of the really unique features of the "Trash 10" (as its affectionately known) is its lack of leading edge slats. You come in pretty hot on final as compared to the Dash 30's, 40's and 50's (probably 20 knots or so faster) in a pronounced nose-down attitude. Also, because the Dash 10 has no leading edge slats, deicing in the winter is a pretty serious issue with respect to preventing the wings from being contaminated prior to take-off. But it's been a durable, and reliable aircraft in all respects. They're a blast to fly in and their maneuverability is second-to-none. In addition, they have been real money-makers for Northwest as they were paid off decades ago. As an ex-NWA employee, I've logged many hours and numerous trips in the DC-9/10, and I'll certainly miss them when they're finally put out to pasture.
 
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:31 am

I flew on ALM's DC-9-10s several times from San Juan, Puerto Rico to St. Marteen, Aruba and Curacao back in the late 60s early 70s. A very nice plane, superb climber on take off. ALM used to fly 3 of them all over the Caribbean back then. They even flew them between St. Marteen and JFK! This ended when one of them ran out of fuel and was ditched in the Atlantic.

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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:23 am

I flew on a -10 just last week DTW-AZO on NW. AZO gets three shorties a day, so it is relatively common around here. Looks like next month though one of those will be replaced by a -30.

If you look around, there was a post on the -10's just last week.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:21 pm

Have flown on them, worked on them (as a "fill-in" F/A) and worked around them quite a bit. A very good, ultra-reliable aircraft (ours, at QH, had 85 seats on them and were frequently "filled to the gills").


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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:51 pm

I had the pleasure to fly with Midwest Express on a DC-9-10 from Kansas City to New Orleans when they still flew that route two years ago. We had a late Sat departure which was booked full orginally, but most went stand by on the earlier sat am departure that morning, so went out about 50%. Full meal service back in the day, cookies were great, and the two flight attendants did a great job. i remember enjoying the plane as well as the flight with YX.
 
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:55 pm

NW still does operate every DC9 variat with the excpetion of the -20.


Except of course the -80, which shoulda been hammered into your head in this forum long ago...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:08 pm

I used to fly a DC-9-10 with NW on several routes, the most
notable one for me being MSP-BUF on a summer evening in
1988. Perfect blue sky, gold setting sun. I loved the short
little jet. I even remember thinking at the time, "this is an
old plane..." and never guessed it would still be in service
years later.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:20 pm

I'm almost positive I flew on a TWA DC-9-10 years ago, either from TPA-STL, or Sarasota to St. Louis, or from CLE-STL. In fact, I know I did. It was a very short DC-9, dinky...definently a DC-9-10. Loved these baby twin-jets. So sad to see so many gone Crying

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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:21 pm

Dtw9 - you mentioned boarding the Delta DC9 'shorty' by the aft airstairs.

I didn't think the 10-series were fitted with these, or the BMA ones certainly weren't.....???
 
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:23 pm

The MD-80s are. The DC-9-10s probably also are, since they entered service about the same time as the 727.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:33 pm

I've flown on the baby DC-9 on two roundtrips between Wichita and Memphis on Northwest, one in 1997 and the other in 1998. I remember very little of the flight. I'm sure I would've enjoyed it since I love flying on DC-9-50, MD-80, and 717.
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RE: The Good Old DC-9 Series 10. Did You Try It?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:46 pm

I just flew a -10 last month DTW-AZO and back. I remember the strangest thing was this: I guess the hushkit or something involves some sort of metal grate to be installed in the intake of the engine. I was sitting on the left side of the plane, second row from the back (15A?). We powerbacked, and I was like, "cool". Then I looked outside, and I saw the grate, which looked an awful lot like a fan, just sitting still. I was like, "its odd to powerback with only one engine, but ok." So I'm sitting here all through taxi waiting for them to start up what in my mind was an idle engine. They didn't of course (contrary to my belief, the engine was on). So we got on the runway and I was thinking, "What the hell?" And we took off like a rocket. Then after takeoff I put two and two together and figured it out. It was funny though.

The plane was wonderful, and the windy approach to AZO was a joy because I heard all of the power changes and an extremely short final. A joy to fly on.