sovietjet
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Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:32 am

What aviation school in Illinois is the best? Which school do airlines prefer? How much does each cost for pilot? What work can I start after I graduate? Cargo? Civil? Private? Are good scholarships offered? Are these different if I want to study for a mechanic or technician rather than pilot? I'm a junior in high school in Chicago and I have a 30 on ACT and 3.6 GPA. I also dont want to go to the military. Thanks
 
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:39 am

shoot for U of I, second best in the nation...behind MIT.
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sw733
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:41 am

I'm from Illinois and when I looked into being a pilot, which I eventually decided against, I looked at Southern (Carbondale), Louis (Romeoville), and U of I (Champaign). Airlines look at a college degree in aviation as gold, and so therefore a degree from any of these is great. It really depends on what you're up to. If you live in Chicago, you can go to Carbondale if you want to get away or Romeoville if you want to stay near. Now, flight school isn't cheap, but U of I will be the most expensive, so I'd go towards Southern or Louis on that scope. I'm not too sure about scholarships. I wouldnt count on one from U of I with your GPA. As high as it is, they are pretty picky. But definately more of a chance at Southern. All I know is that if I would have done flight school in Illinois, I'd be in Carbondale right now.
 
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:42 am

I have heard great things about Southern Illinois University's aviation program. I would recommend staying away from Embry Riddle, they are way too expensive and to be honest their degree is not better than anyone else's. Also don't expect to get on with an airline right after you get your degree, plan to spend lots of time and money building hours. Also don't think you HAVE to have an aviation degree to get into an airline. Any degree works for an airline, it just puts you on top of the others that don't. In fact, I always tell people to get a general degree like business so if incase you don't like flying you have something else to fall back on.

Mechanic schools are different, its not a degree, its a license. Its a good job if you are with a good company.

Just get a degree, build lots and lots of total and multi and that first commuter job will come sooner or later.
 
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:52 am

I was accepted at U of I and trust me, it is nowhere near second in the nation. The school alone has a much better repuation itself, and I may actually be transferring there for urban and regional planning (or maybe going to DCA or Embry Riddle for aviation management). Don't count on U of I unless you have 3.7/27. SIUC is a better aviation school, but the reputation of the school itself is not good, and the town isn't much to write home about.

Sovietjet, I would look at Parks college at SLU. It is a better all around school than Carbondale (town and school don't have best reputation) and U of I (aviation school not that good) for aviation, its in a fun city with lots to do, and its top notch for aviation.

BTW, my GPA was quite a bit higher but my ACT was a little lower, U of I seems to go off of GPA more so I could have gotten a scholarship, but I opted for business at Indiana University.
 
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:01 am

I go to Lewis University in Romeoville and couldn't be happier. It's a smaller school which means more one on one attention. We fly a fleet of 152's, 172's, 172R's, 182RG's, a PA-44 Piper Seminole (Rumor has it that we may be obtaining another Seminole in the not to distant future), and Frasca 141 FTD's. We also have internship programs with Chicago Express and American Eagle.

You asked the question which school do airlines prefer? Don't believe what schools tell you! For the most part....IT DOESN'T MATTER. I can state for a fact though, that most of the pilots at Chicago Express have come from Lewis, U of I, and SIU.

As far as jobs after graduation go, if you were able to have the opportunity to do an internship with Chicago or Eagle, you can pretty much say hello to the right seat of an airliner. This holds true to any internship through any school. If a person was a former intern, the minimums are USUALLY dramatically reduced. Otherwise you can plan on instructing for awhile. I can offer this little piece of advise though. Don't be in any hurry to get to the airlines. It's a hell of a great journey to get there and I'm loving every minute of it. Enjoy the journey while you can.
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sovietjet
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:07 am

So Lewis and Champaign are pretty mouch equal when it comes to applying at an airline?? I like what carbondale sounds like but it's so far. Is it really that much better to go to Carbondale than to stay close here at Lewis? I'll try my best to get in U of I but my GPA is 3.6. But I'm taking Honors and Accelerated classes and not getting A's in all which is why it's 3.6 Do they care if you're in Honors?? If I was in regular I would have like a 4.0 plus my high school is like the 3rd best in Illinois which means everyone here is smart and that lowers my class rank.
 
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:10 am

7574EVER - With what criteria did you get in?? ACT and GPA?? Also did they require you to take art because that's waht they told me I need? Is that true?? And how much does it cost?? Do I need to take some type of basic college or I can just go there and start after senior year in high school??
 
sw733
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:15 am

Colleges don't just look at class rank. I went to a tough HS in Chicago area too and understand that first hand (What HS are you at?). Personally, I love being far away for school. I'm from Chicago and go to school in Kansas and couldn't be happier. But if being close to home is good to you, do Lewis. I have heard great things about both. Enjoy!
 
sovietjet
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:16 am

I go to Stevenson high school...its pretty tough here.
 
sw733
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:18 am

yeah totally understand that. I went to Glenbard West and yeah there are some pretty dumb people lol but generally it's pretty tough. Just as long as you have a good GPA...colleges see the average GPA for your HS and understand to factor in how tough it is there. You'll be fine wherever you want to apply in Illinois.
 
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:18 am

You are in University of Illinois with your grades no questions asked. Here is the reason why if you are staying in state you should go there: fallback. Not all people end up doing aviation regardless of how intent on it you may think you are, some people get shook up from things that happen and need something to fall back on. If you fell back on business or econ at U of I, you could still move onto an aviation management school or go into the business world where you will probably make more money by the sounds of your intellectual ability. If I can offer you one piece of advice, make sure you have a fallback.

That is mainly the problem that I face, I want to do something I love which is aviation management, but you have to make sacrifices. A graduate w/ an MBAfrom the kelley school of business at Indiana University ( where I go and its 10th in nation) makes an average of 73k right out of school. When you look at aviation management, I won't make more than 30k right out. You could get into a better/comparable business school with your grades and make comparable money. It's a tough decision on whether to do something you truly enjoy or go for the money and admire that something you like from afar (airliners.net  Smile). You have to think about how important money is to you, with your ability the ceiling in the business world is much greater than that of aviation.
 
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:25 am

shoot for U of I, second best in the nation...behind MIT.

Sorry, but that is total BS.

U of I is not even in the top 5 in the US. WMU, UND, Purdue, and ER are above U of I.

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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:57 am

When it comes to an airline, I think it's about the credentials(flight time, experience, and knowing some things about aviation) that make you get the job you want. I am at Lewis University and I will be minoring in flight with my maintenance management degree. I think Lewis is a nice school for flight. We are really close to Chicago(30 miles), have a great aviation program with nice teachers from different sectors of aviation from airport managers to ex-pilots as CFI's here. I know that this part does not deal with flight, but some great people graduated from Lewis University have great careers with Northwest Airlines, Chicago Department of Aviation, Several maintenance companies, and some pilots fly for major carriers and private companies. I had a 3.5 GPA and a low ACT score but I still got in. SIU has a much tougher credentials than Lewis, but it's up to what you want to do. If you want to go to Lewis, then go. It's up to you. What you can do is visit each campus that you are thinking of going to. Ask some questions and talk to some students and see how it is.


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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:55 pm

Damn, this the Lewis convention? I'm a sophmore in the Lewis flight program and it's a lot easier to get into the flight program here than a lot of other schools around. Also, an added bonus is I'm free to continue my persuit of music and receive an extra $1000 a year for participating in the choir and jazz band. In addition, if your GPA is higher than 3.0, you automatically get the $8,000 a year gimme scholarship they love to hand out. The only drawback is that it's a Catholic/Lasallian college, so if you avoid religion like the plague you probably will not like this school. However, this is a miniscule factor as there is plenty of booze and sex on campus (and a dyke for a security guard ).
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RE: Pilot Schools In Illinois

Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:27 pm

Sovietjet,

I realize you said in IL, but you might want to check out Purdue and WMU, they are both very good programs, and both 2 hours or less from Chicago.

Check them out:

Purdue - http://www.tech.purdue.edu/at/

Western Michigan (WMU) - http://www.wmich.edu/aviation/index.htm (Wmupilot and Flyingbronco05 should be able to tell you a lot about WMU  Big thumbs up)

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