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Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:44 am

Ever been on an aircraft when the crew had to TOGA??
Personally I have not but I saw one in CLE. There was a CO 737-800 on approach and there was an Air Canada A-320 holding and I guess the CO crew thought it was to close for comfort.
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:50 am

TOGA= Take Off Go Around.

The TOGA switches are pressed every B747-400 takeoff, plus many other types!

I take it you are talking go arounds / missed approaches?
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:14 pm

Yes sorry typo, I was just playing flight sim and I was thinking about it. Missed approach is what I mean.
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:41 pm

I actually saw a go around for the first time just a couple of weeks ago at SXM. One day during my vacation I actually managed to convince my fiancee that the airport was a worthwhile tourist attraction (she remains dubious, but that's another story), so we drove over there to check out the famous Maho Beach and were hanging out at the little beach bar by the end of the runway (beer + bikinis + planes = A.net paradise). The daily Air France A340 had just landed, much to everyone's delight, but was slow clearing the runway (insert joke about weak CFM engines here), as there is no taxiway at the eastern end and all arriving aircraft have to backtrack on the active runway to reach the terminal. A LIAT Dash 8 had already taxied into position for takeoff but had to hold for the big guy, which in turn forced an approaching US Airways 757 to go around at the last minute. It made a very tight circle, came back around and landed. Drama in paradise! Ok, not really, but it made the afternoon a bit more lively.  Smile
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:02 pm

I've had probably 8-10 in my 6 years of flying. Pretty common really. First one was on my second day at work, 757 landing in YVR.
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:18 pm

i've been on two.

first one on a KLM Fokker 100, landing on RWY 19R (now 18c) at AMS after a flight from Nice. The cause was another plane still on the RWY according to the captain. Made 1 stretched 360, no further problems.

The second was also on KLM, this time a 737-800, landing in Rome Fiumicino, also becasuse there was another a/c on the RWY. This time it was a bit more exciting, more powerful TOGA.

Two hours later on the next flight from Rome to Athens on an Alitalia Airbus 321 we had an aborted Take-Off... no explanation as to why...

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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:06 pm

I've been on one. USAirways A319 on approach to rwy 27R at PHL at night. I was on the left side and was watching a Dash-8 on short final for the perpendicular. I figured they'd make him go around, but no, they powered up the engines and took us for another lap around beautiful Center City. I didn't mind at all.  Smile
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:18 pm

A few years ago on MH 002 / B744 KUL-LHR. There was probably a backlog of traffic in LHR so the plane circled around central London for about 20 minutes, shortly after sunrise. It was like a free sightseeing trip  Big grin. The plane really was almost flying in circle because the PTV screen showed exactly that.
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To

Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:32 pm

I also have been on one. I was flying in to London Gatwick on an AA 777, and because of weather we were doing a full instrument approach. (I forget the acronym for it) We got pretty close, couldn't see the ground because of fog but the altitude reading on the ptv said we were low. Then all of a sudden pilot applied full power and we rocket back upwards. One heck of a good time if you ask me, lots of other people had no clue what happened but I was sitting and enjoying it.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:32 pm

I've been on two. The first was at night in the fog at YYT in an Air Nova BAe 146. At the time, the airport was under construction and the airport navigation systems were not fully available. The Captain told us we would attempt 3 approaches and after the 3rd we would divert to YQX. Fortunately, we made it the second time.

The second time was at ORD in a UA 757. Another aircraft strayed onto the runway and forced us to go around. Ch. 9 was frantic for a few moments!  Smile
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:34 pm

I have been on one. I was actually quite excited. I used to always wonder what it was like to be on a plane performing a "go around". I was flying to SAN from SJC on a WN 737. It was an early morning flight and lets just say conditions in SAN were rather gray. When we descended below the clouds we were already mid-field at what was at least a few hundred feet and within seconds the engines spooled up and we began to climb. A few minutes later the crew came on and apologized saying ATC kept them a bit high on approach and they had to try again. We circled around for what seemed like a long time and finally landed. Like I said, it was pretty exciting although not sure if the average passenger on that flight felt the same.

It's funny what the general public will say about these things. I have heard a few people talk about being on flights that performed a missed approach as if they were involved in some sort of dangerous situation, or they had a bad pilot etc.
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:48 pm

I saw a US A321 do one at PHX about a week or two ago. He came in for a pretty normal approach and then took a 180 degree turn but maintained his altitude. It was really cool to watch as I have never seen one before.

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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:03 pm

I've been on one too, on a BA Tristar (yes, it was long time ago). We were making a final approach to LHR when suddenly the engines went to full throttle and climbed away. As we started a circuit round, the captain announced over intercom that there had been another plane on the runway, but his calm, relaxed tone made it sound like it was an everyday occurance; but I wonder if there had been quickened pulses on the flightdeck.
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:47 am

I did one flying a Britannia 757 into OSL from AGA. It was really snowy and clouds just at minima. Just as we break thru the clouds, only a couple of hundred feet up, they apply full power and pitch back. Once we level off, the captain comes on the PA and explains that they were cleaning the runway for snow, but forgot to tell him, and he just pulled up when he got through the clouds and saw them himself.
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:00 am

I have been on eight go arounds and one rejected takeoff.

Go arounds

Air France 707, ORL, plane on runway
Eastern Provincial 737, YQX, weather (2 times)
Delta 727, MCO, weather
America West 737, LAX, plane on runway
US Air 737, PHL, plane on runway
United 757, BWI, plane on runway
Delta 757, BWI, plane on runway

Rejected take off

TWA MD80, STL, no EPR indication
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:10 am

I have been on two.

1) Landing at YYZ on a AC 737 (Former Canadian Airlines aircraft). The pilot said that there was another plane on the runway.

2) A bit more exciting. Landing in Nassau on an American Eagle ATR. We were about to land and suddenly the turboprob engines went to max power. The pilot later explained that the runway light suddenly went out (it was around 9pm). As my Bahamian friend explained.. Thats the Bahamas Big grin
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To

Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:31 am

Yep, scared the daylights out of me. On approach around midnight (delayed flight) into ATL on a Delta 737-800. Close enough to see blades of grass in the lights when all of a sudden the engines rev up and we went around toward downtown ATL. It's rare to get that close to downtown normally.
 
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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:36 am

I've been on one; It was a Mexicana A319/320 landing in CUN with heavy crosswinds.

I myself have had to do a few; most of them for practice (stay sharp) and others for necessity.

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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:36 am

I was on one last October while on approach into CLT on a US Airways 737 (SAV-CLT). We were literally feet off the runway, when the pilot put the plane into a steep climb, and heavy right bank. Turned out that another plane was crossing the runway. Just like a roller coaster ride, only more exciting.

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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:42 am

Well I've done somewhere around 20 FCF's, so we did one on each Test Flight, I can think of 2 or 3 times when I was a passanger on my own airline and one night trying to get into Portland, Maine as a passanger on a Delta flight we did 2 before giving up and flying down to Boston. At work looking out of the hangar we'll see a few every week. Shoot.... on one FCF the Captain I was flight with was due for his Check Flight soon, so I offered to let him take the plane out and do a little training work (as long as he brought the plane back in one piece and didn't get me sick) Well, he wanted to do an IFR Approach w/ a Missed Approach. It was late at night and when we told ATC what we wanted to do, he got all excited too as he would get a little 'training time in too'. It was fun and ATC even thanked us when we did our full stop.

As said above, Missed Aproaces are VERY common.

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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:07 am

Yeah, I've been on a few. The most exciting one was on a DC-9, ORD-LGA with AA. The pilot completely missed the approach. Even I could see that from where I was sitting since I've gone in and out of LGA a lot. So the go-around came as no surprise to me. But we got a great Manhattan fly-by on a clear day. Awesome.

As we got off the plane, the pilot looked rather embarrassed and red-faced. What kind of disciplinary action might a pilot face for something like this?

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RE: Ever Been On An Aircraft When The Crew Had To Toga

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:11 am

In an EI 143 a few years ago, at BHX. Was quite enjoyable. The reason, according to the captain, was that a tug (or something similar) was on the runway. Hmm...
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