FRALIM
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Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:44 pm

Hey!

Maybe one of you guys can help me. I need some information about the fleets of JAL and ANA. Unfortunately I was nor really successfull trying to find info on their webpages. So if one of you knows how many aircrafts (especially long-haul) they own, it would be really cool if he could provide me with that info.

Regards Chris
 
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:50 pm

For ANA:

http://www.ana.co.jp/eng/aboutana/corporate/media/index_sm.html
Scroll down the bottom and you can see their fleet listing.

For JAL:

http://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalnews/gaiyo/flight.html

Also scroll down the bottom for quite a detailed listing.

Cheers,
Phil
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:56 pm

I think JAL have around 150 jets (excluding JAS fleet) and ANA have around 100jets. I will try and give you the exact numbers soon,
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Cessna172RG
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:06 pm

For JAL...

They just merged with JAS, so they have a bit of a larger fleet now...

Domestic:

Boeing 737-400 (operating as JAL, JEX, or JTA).
MD-81 (some are still painted in JAS colors)
Airbus A300 (various versions)(some still in JAS colors)
Boeing 767-200 (not sure if they're used domestically so much these days...they only got a few of them)
767-300 (a LOT of these...)
Boeing 777-200
Boeing 777-300 (one of two domestic heavy haulers, the other being the -400D)
Boeing 747-SR (I am not certain if they're still in use, I haven't seen one in months...)
Boeing 747-200/200SUD (sometimes they fill in on domestic runs, if you are lucky to catch one)
Boeing 747-400D (a -400 with no wingtips, shortened wings, and lots of seats)
DC-10-40 (there is one daily on the current schedule that flies to and from Tokyo, and occasionally they fill in for broken 777s)
MD-11...although I think that they are being retired very soon, if not already, and BEFORE the DC-10s will be!!! (Everyone goes nuts about NWA painting a DC-10 in new colors...while JAL has been doing it for some time now!)

International:

Boeing 767-200 and -300 (There are a handful of -300s with JAA)
Boeing 777-200
Boeing 747-400 (with wintips)
Boeing 747-200/200 SUD/300 (some operate as JAA, others as Reso'cha)
(Reso'cha flies from Tokyo/Fukuoka/Osaka/Sapporo/Sendai/Nagoya to Hawaii, mostly, but sometimes you can see those colors as far away as Vancouver, and a lot in Guam as well)

Commuter fleet:

Because of their merger with JAS, they have inherited JAC, HAC, etc...and you can easily find YS-11's, Saab 340s, etc, flying around Sapporo, Kyushu, and other places in Japan. Kagoshima has LOTS of commuter flights for JAC. Okinawa sees some Britten Norman Islander II flights as well.

As for ANA, it's almost the same, except ANA has two parts... ANA and ANK. Because ANK has a slightly different fleet, I'll list each seperately:

ANA flies the following aircraft internationally:

767-300
777-200
747-400
(Their routes are significantly smaller for international destinations than JAL)

ANA flies the following aircraft domestically:

Airbus A320
Airbus A321
Boeing 737-500 (MAY BE IN ANK COLORS!!!)
767-200 (only to two or three airports...they only have a handful left)
767-300 (ok, they have like way too many of these too...you get sick of them after a while of plane spotting at almost any airport in Japan...seriously!!!)
777-200
777-300
747-SR
747-400D (again, no wingtips)

ANK flies these birds...

737-400 (they have only TWO of these I think, both are painted like BIG dolphins, and they rotate between Fukuoka and Tokyo, flying very quick commuter hops between several islands, like Tsushima, etc.)
737-500 (lots of these cute planes, may or may not be mix matched with ANA titles)
767-300 (once in a while you can catch one with Air Japan titles)
Airbus A320 (with ANK titles)

There is also ADK and other commuter airlines that make up ANA that fly the Twin Otter (DH6), versions of the Dash 8, etc...

This is the BASIC nutshell of the fleet structure. JAL really does have some good stuff online, including some very neat printable international timetables in PDF format that are easy to read.

~Randy
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FRALIM
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:15 pm

Thank you guys. I could find the list on JALs page, but I guess I wasn't smart enough to find it on ANAs page (nothing to scroll?!?!?!). But now with Randys listing, I think I've got all the info I need!!!!

Thanx again

Chris
 
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:26 pm

Oh, it's me again. If someone could also tell me how many of these aircrafts ANA has got in it's fleet, he would make my day even better Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Chris

 
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:45 pm

I forgot to mention the JAL/JAS MD-87's...lol!

Fleet numbers...hmmm...I don't have specifics, but here is a mean (average) guess based on aircraft that I have seen on airliners.net, in person, and based on making a realistic AI traffic schedule for Microsoft (c) Flight Simulator 2002 a while back...

These are GUESSES and NOT ACTUAL researched figures, and will probably be fairly close to the ACTUAL numbers. Figures given are on aircraft that I am pretty sure about. Some aircraft will be ommitted because...I don't know! lol...

JAL

777-300...less than 10
777-200...less than 20
747-400D...less than 10
747-SR/200/200SUD/300...In the neighborhood of 40 altogether?
747-400...less than 20 I think...
767-300...over 50
767-200...5 or 10, maybe even fewer
DC-10...20 or so?
MD-11...10 or so?

JAL/JAS

A300 (various versions)...30+
MD-81...30 or more
MD-87...about 12
MD-90...about 10

Commuter fleet and the 737s...no clue...sorry!

ANA...

A320...40 or so?
A321...10-20
737-500 (see ANK)
767-200...about 5 (maybe less...)
777-200 (20 or more?)
777-300 (10 or less)
747-400...20?
747-SR...less than 10 I am guessing, with not many left in service *I THINK* (because I haven't seen one at FUK since August or September of 2003).

ANK...

737-400...at least two that I know of, painted like a big giant dolphin
737-500...almost as many as JAL and ANA have combined of 767s...A LOT!!!
A320...less than 10 I believe...
767-300...only one or two, but I believe that they are regular ANA planes with Air Japan titles, so you may not see an Air Japan plane on those ANK 767 routes.

And don't ask me about the commuter fleets...they give me headaches! (but the Himawari--Sunflower plane is really fun to see, too bad I don't live in Hokkaido, then I might stand a chance of seeing it!)
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:47 pm

Add JAL DC-10-40I to the International list. JAL currently has about 3 MD-11s, 3 767-200s (used to GMP and TSN etc).
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FRALIM
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:06 pm

No questions about the commuter fleet Wink/being sarcastic

you really helped me a lot Randy!!!

Thanks again!!!
 
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:47 pm

Fralim:

Try this site. Enter the airline name and select "Operator"

http://www.airfleets.net/home/?file=welcome
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:44 am

This is the ANA fleet straight from the ANA website:

Current Fleet (As of March 31, 2003)
Aircraft...........Number of aircraft...........Number of seats
B747-400........23................................319-569
B747SR-100.....8.................................455-536
B747-200B.......2.................................456
B777-300.........5.................................477-525
B777-200.........16...............................233-382
B767-300.........49...............................214-289
B767-200.........4.................................234
A321-100.........7.................................195
A320-200.........25*1............................166
B737-500.........9*2..............................126
TOTAL.............148
*1 Includes aircraft jointly owned with Air Nippon
*2 All aircraft leased to Air Nippon

http://www.ana.co.jp/eng/aboutana/corporate/business/main.html
 
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RE: Fleet Of ANA And JAL?

Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:56 am

As for the numbers for the JAL Group:

B747LR: 26
B747SR: 3
B747-400: 34
-400D: 8
B747-200F: 10
B767-200: 3
-300: 25
B737-400: 23
MD-11: 6
DC-10: 15
B777-200: 15
-300: 5
CRJ-200: 5
JS-31: 3
A300: 14
A300-600R: 22
MD-90: 16
MD-81: 18
MD-87: 8
YS-11: 11
DASH8-400: 2
SAAB340B: 14
Total: 286

http://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalnews/gaiyo/flight.html

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