Saleem
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Jump Seat Traveler?

Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:50 pm

How often someone travel on jump seat or even I must say as Jump Stand (for those small cockpits, which don't have additional seating capacity). I always try to get jump seat and often get it.

Almost every time I find Pilots are too cooperative and when they came to know that I am a Fun Flyer they offer seat in Cockpit and if they don't have any Seat (Fokker F27 case) they offer me space behind the little cockpit to stand there and view landing.

Around 25 - 30% times I travel in Cockpit.

How many other have this opportunity?

 
QIguy24
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:00 pm

I have done that many times as well. I work for QI and have been flying jumpseat many times when I have asked for it. I have tried it on a ATR42, ATR 72 and CRJ-200
And I enjoy it every time even thoug I am 197cm tall.
 
PH-BFA
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:01 pm

'and if they don't have any Seat (Fokker F27 case) they offer me space behind the little cockpit to stand there and view landing'

you mean you are actually standing during landing??? Sounds pretty dangerous....

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jumbopilot
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:15 pm

I am a frequent flyer of LH since many years, but I have not ever asked the crew for that. Maybe I should do that because it is a dream since my childhood to get in touch with that experience.

Is it really so easy? Only asking the crew? As I have heard, at LH (or in whole Germany) there is an updated law for safety in airspace now. And for that reason it is no longer allowed to travel within the cockpit, if you are not a current crew member (it is forbidden now even for pilots of the same company which want to travel back to their homebase).
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LHSebi
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:37 pm

I recently asked on 2 LH flights (within europe) if I could jumpseat. One of the stewardesses said she would ask the captain, and he said no. The other one straight away said that it is forbidden by the authorities, and she didnt even bother asking the captain. I would always ask. There is no harm in trying, and the worst thing that happens is that they say no. They will usually let you into the cockpit to take photos and/or to chat with the pilots. That will usually work, and has worked for me. Good luck!

Sebastian
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Saleem
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:25 pm

Yes, this is quite easy. As I have my visiting cards of my flying club, so Pilots normally respect a flyer. If you ask FA to get the permission, the normal answer is straight forward is "NO". So, better to send your Card (may be that your business card) to Captain and said that you would like to meet him and on the back side of the card write message, normally it works.

I observed as usually I fly in Business and First Class, that when I am flying in F/J class the treatment for cockpit visit is better than Tourist/Economy Class.

Certainly, after 9/11 the rules have been changed very mush and pilots are more strict in allowing someone in the cockpit and as I am also a Fun Flyer and have full beard the FAs may be little more conscious about my entry in Cockpit, however I have many friends who are Pilots and when they are in command I got entry very easily.

It was really a very bad act of terrorism (9/11), however its impact on aviation lovers is very long term, as security is everywhere, where someone see camera they become suspicious, Cockpit security is too tight and its reality that sometimes when I visit the cockpit the other passengers become worried as there is something going wrong.

Pray to Allah that peace would be every where. Ameen
 
beechcraft
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:01 am

Hey Sebastian. It is not forbidden.
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aeroyu
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:27 am

My only jump-seat experience was seating in a A330-300 to Sapporo, Japan. Unluckily (and luckily) the landing was go-around due to an aircraft stuck in the runway. Amazing.
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jhooper
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:22 am

If you even asked in the U.S., they'd treat you like a terror suspect.
Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
 
PIA747
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RE: Jump Seat Traveler?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:50 am

Saleem,
I guess you mostly travel PIA, and PIA does not have very strict rules on Cockpit visits. I have travelled on the Jumpseat all my life, as a non revenue passenger. For me its lost its charm.