Aviationman
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Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:54 am

Have a look. The article is in French. Published by Logimonde. Zoom applied for a license to operate sked flights YUL-CDG starting this summer.

http://www.logimonde.com

Also the article about Sunwings coming to Montreal. No smoke without fire.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:12 am

WOW!!!

How many flight departing from YUL to Europe???
how many ailines fly Europe of YUL???
a lot... And this is good for YUL and maybe the ticket price continue to going down.
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:18 am

199$ for a one way would be a killer but I highly doubt it will be sustainable.

I don't trust them. They've been on and off for months now...
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:31 am

Let's gloss a bit here (Neil  Wink/being sarcastic):

Double daily YUL-FRA (AC)
Double daily YUL-CDG (AC)
Doublke daily YUL-LHR (AC)
Triple daily to CDG (AF)
Daily to LHR (BA)
Daily to MS / EHAM), Netherlands">AMS (KL)
Daily to CMN (AT)
Daily to ZRH (LX)

4 x weekly to AT) (closed), Greece AND CURRENT: Athens - Eleftherios Venizelos (Spata) (ATH / LGAV), Greece">ATH (OA)
3 x weekly to PRG (OK)
2 x weekly to CAI (MS)
1 x wekly to PDL (S4)
1 x weekly to LGW (Thomas Cook)
2 x weekly to FSP (Air saint-Pierre)

And other international destinations:

Many times weekly to: HOG, CYO, PUJ, FDF, PTP, PAP etc.... (AC)
Three times weekly to HAV (CU)
Daily to MX), Mexico">MEX (MX)

And you can see, YUL is lacking YUL-South America flights. It will come soon.
This is based on summer 2004 schedule. I probably missed a few.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:33 am

What do you mean? You don't trust them? ZOOM/GTD have been viable for the past 4 years.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:48 am

Thank you aviationman for this flight description of YUL

but i think this is only the prevision of this summer...
when the transfers of AT (air transat) in P-E Trudeau is complete,
more south flight will be had, yes charter but weekly.

I love the south  Smokin cool
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:59 am

I believe it's October 4th. Not 100% sure though. By the way....FYI...AT is Royal Air Maroc. TS is Air Transat. Just thought I should clarify this one.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:13 am

Allô,

If you meant the Montreal area, then you can also add Corsair (6x a weekly to YMX) and the 23 or 24 weekly flights TS operates to Europe all summer long.

Also, Corsair (can't remember their code!) is thinking about becoming a regular to YUL instead of just a charter but no words yet whether they would serve YUL on a year-round basis or just during summer.

Aviationman, I don't think Zoom will be able to operate successfully 7 or 8 weekly between YUL and CDG when they have never flown on this route before. Also, it would rely mostly on O&D and I don’t think there’s a need for another 2000 seats a week on this route now.

They should look on the most striking missing direct link between YUL and Europe: FCO! I still don’t get it. Only one weekly flight to Rome (TS from YMX)!!!

Regards.
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:15 am

@ $199.00 one way, full meal service, B-767-300... Why not?
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:24 am

Actually, Corsair is operating "sked" seasonal YMX-Paris flights. Corsair 900/901 6 x weekly during summer.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:28 am

Because they are a no-name on this route and at this price, they will need very high loads on all their flights to brake even. Like I said, it will be almost exclusively O&D so they will have to put in place a major marketing campaign in Paris on a very short notice.

I wish them good luck but I think a daily flight is simply too much but hopefully, they will prove me wrong  Smile
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:36 am

YUL332LX, where did you get the idea of daily flights?

By the way, the "Major Marketing Campaing" in France already started.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:37 am

Aviationman,

I know Corsair serves YMX but next year, it will be YUL and it was stated that they could become regular on this route instead of charter.

By the way, have you been on a Zoom flight? How is their service?
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:42 am

Aren't you the one who provided a link regarding Zoom stating that they were scheduling 8x weekly flights between YUL and CDG? Can't remember for sure but I think it was you!

If it's not the case, how many flight do they plan?

Eric
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:47 am

YUL332LX, were you talking about ZOOM or Corsair? This is confusing. Corsair is already operating skeds from YMX. Corsair operates "seasonal" skeds from YMX. It was their choice to stay in YMX. They were offered to move their skeds to YUL but decided to stay in YMX. Starting next fall, the Corsair skeds will move to YUL....They'll have no choice!

A good friend of mine is in charge of Inflight Service @ ZOOM. I will fly with them next month YOW-HOG. They offer hot towels, hot meals, free drinks, etc.....

I know ZOOM is not planning daily service YUL-Paris.....But 3 times a week maybe?

 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:49 am

Eric, no you are wrong. The link I provided was 12 weekly YUL/YYZ-Paris flights. It could be 3 x YUL-CDG, 9 x YYZ-CDG, etc...... No I did not provide such info.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:57 am

I provided several links to the YUL-CDG possible flights. Many articles were published lately. If one of them was mentioning 8 x weekly.....Well I do not support it.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:02 am

Aviationman, I know I read somewhere about an 8x weekly YUL-CDG by Zoom, which would be excessive (you'll probably agree with on this one!)

3 times a week would be just fine... I could try them next summer!
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:14 am

MON-WED-FRI would be great. Actually, I saw their summer sked. They have a 767 sitting in YYZ doing nothing a few days per week.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:30 am

I thought ZOOM will only have 2 763s in service this summer? This really means a max of 13 weekly transatlantic flights from Canada.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:31 am

Neil, apparently the 3rd one is coming soon.
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:38 am

I think it's in May. Can someone help here?
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:47 am

Back when Zoom started they had a flight to MCO with the leased A320, why did they pull out of this route?
 
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RE: Zoom Getting Closer To YUL-CDG!

Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:49 am

As far as I know, ZOOM still operates weekly YOW-MCO-YHZ-MCO-YOW. They operate it with a B-767.

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