lahaina
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Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:57 am

Has anyone heard whether or not Aloha Airlines has gotten the go ahead with its DC to Honolulu runs?
 
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:52 am

Yes, it is already announces with the new service from SNA-DCA flight with the slot restrictions. It would able make one-stop from DCA-SNA-HNL flight.
 
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:28 pm

I don't think an "award" has been announced, has it? Several airlines have applied for these routes.
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:34 pm

The winners of the new slots have not been announced, should be announced within a week or two.

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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:36 pm

At this time, no, AQ has not yet won the route.

It will be a profitable one if they do win it, and more for DCA-SNA than SNA-HNL.

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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:39 pm

SNA-HNL/OGG/KOA are Aloha's most profitable flights. This is why they are expanding their presence at SNA instead of OAK or BUR.

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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:47 pm

AQ is certainly doing some ambitious expansion lately and I wonder if they'd consider adding some 757s to their fleet? The 757 would be the perfect airplane for them to eventually add more capacity on their routes that have proven very popular. PLUS, AQ seems to like the challenge of operating long haul from short fields such as SNA, BUR, OGG and soon, DCA? The 737-700 must be performing very well for them however, in the interim. Are AQ's 73Gs the only current ETOPS qualified 737s, besides the BBJ?
 
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:47 pm

Why would the routes have to be "awarded"? I thought we had deregulated routes...
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:05 pm

Jhooper: There's a slot and/or radius rule at DCA, much like there is at LGA. The rules exist because both airports are so congested.

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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:28 pm

I really hope Aloha can operate this route. The service is really good, including both first and economy. I hope the free Mai Tai and cookies will remain on this particular service.

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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:11 pm

Wow, AQ is expanding to yet more cities on the mainland!

Never got the chance to fly one of the AQ B73Gs.
 
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:31 pm

Are AQ's 73Gs the only current ETOPS qualified 737s, besides the BBJ?

No, there are several other South Pacific airlines (and perhaps a few others around the world) who use 737s on long transoceanic segments. For example, Fiji's Air Pacific operates the 738 from Nadi to Vancouver via Honolulu, and certainly the HNL-YVR portion would be subject to ETOPS. I would imagine that CO Micronesia's 738s are ETOPS qualified as well.
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:43 pm

FoxBravo....oh yea...I forgot all about those Pacific carriers! DUH!!
 
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:57 pm

FoxBravo,
You are correct CO Micronesia's 738s are ETOPS certified. The reason for this we have a 5 stop HNL-GUM flight and vice-versa. Also all flights out of GUM going to our pacific destinations are flying over water.
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:12 am

Adding 757's would add to their operating costs. I think AQ, like WN, wants to stick with a single type of aircraft. But 757's in AQ colors would be cool!
 
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RE: Aloha's DC To Honolulu Route

Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:34 am

Are AQ's 73Gs the only current ETOPS qualified 737s, besides the BBJ?

Even AQ's 732s are ETOPS. All 737 members can be, except potentially the 731.

Why would the routes have to be "awarded"? I thought we had deregulated routes...

Not at DCA. DCA is governed by an act of Congress, those acts include both slot and perimeter rules. New routes are awarded to maximize access to smaller carriers, and to currently unserved areas of the country.

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