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Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:15 am

My apologies if this is common knowledge, but I recall seeing video of a 747 doing a barrel roll, filmed sometime in the 70's. Does anyone know the guy's name who did this hilarious-looking stunt? I believe his nickname was "Tex" and I think he caught some heat for doing so. Can anyone shed some light on this subject?
 
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:19 am

sorry for the dumb question-

but what is a barrel roll?
 
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:20 am

I've seen photage of a 707 doing it during a test flight but never heard of a 747 doing it...

A famous pic from inside the 707 looking out over the wing and seeing the engines on TOP is pretty awesome! Big grin
 
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:20 am

Hi ANA777Master

I think that it wasn't a 747, but actually the Dash 80 (707 prototype). If you have Discovery Wings you can watch a little segment they play about it between programs. I think its something about being witness to history. Sorry I can't help you more

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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:20 am

It was the dash 80, a 707 prototype. It did it during a boat race to prove to bystanders that the jet might be a valueable investment. The Pilot was fired, but then re-hired due to his experence.
 
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:21 am

I just assumed it was a 747 since it was huge looking with 4 engines. Thanks for clarifying.
 
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:32 am

Yup, Tex Johnson.

In theory the roll is a positive 1G manuver, so any aircraft should be able do to it.

Of course that really didn't work that well with Bill Allen.
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:33 am



Sweet!!
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:36 am

Thanks, L-188. That's what I would've thought, theoretically.
 
 
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:50 am

I forget what TV show I got that from, but it was Tex Johnson that said that was the explaination he gave to Paul Allen after Allen got off the heart meds following Johnson doing the roll Big grin
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:50 am

Heres the vid but mine says its corrupt, might work better for you?

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/707%20Roll.mpg

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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:51 am


The 707 barrell roll was discussed at length recently. for more info:-

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1431557/6/


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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:55 am

In an "ordinary roll" the plane flies along an imaginary line that goes through it from stem to stern.

In a barrel roll it flies in a horizontal spiral, and keeps a 1g force towards the bottom of the plane the whole time.
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:56 am

Become legendary for a feat like this and get your name spelled wrong.

It is Tex Johnston - with a T.

I expect he was cordially invited not to do it anymore.

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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:02 am

Yup! Mr. Johnston told Mr. Allen that he was "selling airplanes."  Smile
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:08 pm

"I expect he was cordially invited not to do it anymore." That he was.

Now for the surprise. If you had been inside the Dash 80 during the roll, with a cup of soda in your hand, you'd have felt no discomfort and have a full cup of soda at the end, except for what you drank during the roll.

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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:14 pm

By the way it was William Allen that Tex had to explain himself to not Paul Allen. Paul Allen is that Microsoft Geek that owns the Portland Jailblazers and the Seattle Seahags.
 
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:47 am

Believe me... I had my fingers crossed while I watched last summer:


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Alas... I'll bet every lawyer at Boeing made VERY sure it didn't happen again.

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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:55 am

Nah, what I wanted to see when the Dash-80 and the 777-300ER flew overhead was for the 777 to roll (twice, once going in each direction, to be historically accurate of course). Big grin

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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:24 am

Ya gotta admit though... it was still pretty impressive:



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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:30 am

Yeah ExitRow- I was hoping for it too...
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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:23 am


When I get home I will look at a book that I have called "Widebody", which is a non-fiction paper back on the history of Boeing. It has a blow-by-blow description of the event, including the conversations that took place after (particularly when it was made apparant by Tex to Allen that he barrel-rolled test aircraft a little more than on the odd occasion).

Apparently this was not the first time, nor was it the last time that Tex was fired for being a "cowboy". What do you expect from a man whos tradition was to get himself a new pair of cowboy boots when he was about to test fly an aircraft for the first time???

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RE: Barrel Roll In A 747.....

Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:06 pm

"Tex" was never fired by Boeing.
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