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Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:03 pm

Flight International is reporting that bmi is considering the A319LR and 737-700X for long-range thin routes. Can't see them going to Boeing given their intention to move to an all-Airbus fleet. What do you think?
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:29 pm

whats the range of the A319LR ?
how comfortable would that be on a long distance ?
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:52 pm

What routes/class structure?
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:21 pm

With 124 pax in 2 classes, the A319 can do 3700nm. The 319CJ with 10 passengers can do 6300nm.

As for comfort, it sure beats making a stop along the way.
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:04 am

I guess they could, in theory, easily become part of the LH/Privateair operation, or at least draw on their experience?
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:31 am

The aircraft would be in a 2-class "premium" configuration, with both The Business (C) and New Economy (W) seats. There will be no economy class so comfort shouldn't be an issue!

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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:39 am

would this mean increased fares for these services?? This idea would work so well from EDI. The money they could amke doing EDI-JFK etc! Big grin
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:01 am

I so new you would post that scottish laddie LOL would they not be better getting an a380 edi-jfk LMAO. No i can see GLA-Bostone starting with one of these and then an a330 no problem then mabe ATL would it make it to LAX or SFA Or to texas? i know that jfk- lax is roughly as near as jfk- GLA so a normal a319 could be used on this or to BOS as a trial before ordering a319lr's or what ever other plane they want to order.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:03 am

I can see no routes from EDI or GLA  Big grin
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:07 am

I could dream of long-haul services from LBA, given that they already serve many destinations from LBA (if you include bmi regional), but then they are hardly likely to open new long haul services at an airport so near to their existing long-haul base at MAN.

I'll keep on dreaming.....  Sad
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:12 am

Were they flying from NCL or Carlisle LOL Gkirk remember what country your from please!
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:14 am

I'm sorry Bmi330 but EDI being the capital of Scotland and all that, is the more important business centre and these flights would almost certainly be aimed at the business passenger.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:20 am

Im sorry scottish laddie am jsut going on hard evidance that GLA is adding international flights and would make sense to add more. EDI trans atlantic pax are going sight seeing there not bus pax ? I mean CO are doing 91% loads on GLA-EWR apparently this winter according to another news group so suply and demand an all that.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:24 am

If we are going by supply and demand, then as EDI is consistently handling more passengers than GLA just now then it would make sense to start from EDI.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:41 am

Yeah to europe and what airport ahs more traffic p.a. Im not going to argue with you as it will probs only be man to start with.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:45 am

It will probably never even 'start' anyway.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:10 am

yeah i know wont happen in scotland anyways just have to work for globespan to get that big.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:18 am

BMI could take advantage of a lack of Transatlantic destinations from Scotland, but this would be unlikely to happen in the near future. If BA don't do it, why should BMI. BA obviously don't believe the demand is there. Maybe a trial Summer service to see how things go but i can't see BMI doing transatlantic from Scotland for atleast 7-10 years. But hopefully i am proved wrong.

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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:21 am

BMI were going to start Transatlantic ops from EDI prior to 9/11. That word came from the CEO. Can't get anymore definite than that!  Smile But ofcourse 9/11 put a stop to all those plans and any plans since  Sad
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:58 am

Whats the CEO of bmi transatlantic pre 9/11 meter reading now scotish laddie? must be in the 1000's by now LOL. Gaz everyone nose BA are London airways. 7-10 years will be tolate globespan will be domanat in scotland by then I hope.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:02 am

As do i, thats why i am saying BMI are unlikely.
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:26 am

Why did my post become a debate about Scottish airports? If you want to start a new topic then why not start a new topic?
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:31 am

Quote from an article published May 2001:




Sir Michael Bishop's bmi british midland, is to launch long-awaited direct
transatlantic flights from Edinburgh within months.

The airline, which announced its annual results yesterday, is planning to
roll out the new services to exploit the growing number of business
travellers coming to the capital from the US.

Speaking to The Scotsman, chairman Sir Michael Bishop said the move was a
result of the capital's growing economic power. He added: "With the Scottish
parliament and the city's stature as a financial centre, Edinburgh is a
different proposition now than it was five years ago."

He added that air travel to Glasgow was mainly leisure-based and did not
offer the same financial rewards.


bmi have looked at TX flights from EDI, but despite promising to add flights, have yet to do so. If they were to start flying A319s across the pond I think MAN would be the first base, with EDI a possible, but unlikely second base.
 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:04 am

Yeah your right GLA would be srcond after a man service i think.

never said it was untrue just asking me pal how many times hes brung it up now lol.

 
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RE: Bmi Considers Long-range Narrow Bodies

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:18 am

The A319LR runs about 4500nm in an airline configuration.

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