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Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:40 am

This is for those of you still living life as a student.

Have you ever found yourself writing airport codes in place of city names for your shorthand (possibly because you spent entirely too much time on a.net?)

For example, a few years back, we had a whole chapter on Jack the Ripper and every reference to London, I shorthanded LHR. I know, its sad...

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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:45 am




Absolutely. done that quite a few times. Closest airport for me is Newark and I have always written EWR for any reference to Newark, the city or the airport. Now EWR, exactly does not match "Newark" and I've had to explain myself quite a few times. It is not exactly BOS for Boston...

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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:47 am

I write them when I should use town names, I talk them on phone calls. A lot of people in the Boeing biz know them, but I have to go clarify when I'm out of there. It's not sad. It's an adventure!!!
 
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:48 am

All the time! Do it every day. And when we are doing something in class i know. I think about flights a can do in FS04.
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:56 am

LOL Flymia, when I'm bored I list the most airport/airline codes I can name off the top of my head.

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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:59 am

For those of you who used an airport code for New York City, do you use JFK or LGA?
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:22 pm

I have to keep myself from writing TYS instead of KNX on paperwork I send to my company's regional distribution center in Knoxville.
 
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:25 pm

I do that all the time. I do all the travel arrangements for my family and there always asking what does "HNL" mean or what does "IAH" mean I'm so used to writing the codes, I don't even write the full city name out anymore.
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:28 pm

Me too. Here in Chicago we got both ORD and MDW and so i usually ask ORD or MDW and they will reply w/ the airport. hehe... I dont like writing out the city so i'll use the airport code unless its for school then its the full city...

grr.

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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:34 pm

I do it all the time. Notes, letters, e-mails, anything.
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:36 pm

COAB767, I do the same thing all the time. Many of my neighbors and family friends know that I love to do travel planning, and I often find good deals for them, so they often call me when they are planning a trip.

When I am typing up a Word document with an itinerary, I type the airport and airline codes for myself while I'm doing the planning, and more often than not I forget to change them to the names when I email the Word document to the person I'm setting up a trip for. My neighbor is planning to go to LA, Maui, and Kauai in August for two weeks and has never flown before. He called me yesterday, absolutely clueless as to what I had set up for him and his wife. He had no idea what CO, EWR, SNA, OGG, HNL, and LIH meant. He thought I totally messed up his itinerary. I had to explain to him the entire concept of airline and airport codes - he just couldn't understand why everyone in the airline industry just didn't use the name of the city for the airport. Ah, the joy of dealing with the common traveling public.  Big grin

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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:16 pm

Yanksn4

use NYC all the time.........
 
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:30 pm

Having worked on airline Res systems and GDS's my whole life, it is completely normal to see any reference to an airline or city in any correspondence (however official) is nearly always using the carrier code or city/airport code. This is normal in the industry though, and everyone pretty much knows who/where you mean. I don't know when last I actually typed 'Nice' instead of NCE. Even my family have got used to it know, and know what I mean when I SMS them I'm arriving MHT 2155.

The trouble is when people start using the wrong 3-letter code eg. JHB instead of JNB for Johannesburg. JHB is Johore Bharu in Malaysia. Likewise LDN for LON. If you want to use the code, use it right !
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:38 pm

All the time... in notes, NCAA pools, and football picks (PHL over TPA, ORD over DTW, etc...)... it's so much easier, especially when the notes/picks are read by fellow aviation enthusiasts.


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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:56 pm

Always - in my previous company we actually built a worldwide IT network using those names. (i.e. a server in Zurich would be named ZRHxxxx, in L.A. it'll be LAXxxxx)
 
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:11 pm

To take it a step farther, I often will refer to a city by its airport name. It drives my non industry friends nuts.

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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:14 pm

I go so far as to use other res codes in my notes, even to other people. Not uncommon for me to leave a note saying that someone NN (res code for need)to do something, or that something else is HK or KK (confirmed).
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:16 pm

Yanksn4

use NYC all the time.........


NYC isnt an airport code, Hailstone.


I myself write my notes in aviationese on a daily basis due to the fact that Ive been an AS CSA. Its easier for me rather that writing things in essay form. Ive grown to do that alot and most of the time my friends can't even read what the heck Im writing. LOL!
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:24 pm

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I'm in a really weird situation. When I was younger, I found much of an adoration for aviation. However, as I grew into my teen years I started into computing, debating... all the good stuff. Just recently I "re"discovered my enthusiasm for aviation. So I think it'll be quite some time before I begin to use airport codes in place of city names.
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:33 pm

NYC isnt an airport code, Hailstone

Of course not, it is not an airport code by itself, but in the aviation world, specifically when we refer to CRS (Computer Reservation Systems) it is used as a city designator. These are used to have the system display all the available airport alternatives for a destination on any given request.

It is widely used to book flights when the passenger's travel plans are flexible and when he/she is trying to get the best fare.

In example, requesting a PAR-NYC will display all the available flights from CDG, ORY, (and others if available and within certain mileage from the city designated) to JFK, EWR, LGA, etc.

I know... waaay off-topic but it is a cool thing to know.

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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:56 pm

Yeah, I do it all the time as well. When I am in a boring subject, I like to write down new routes for my airline simulator. When I get home, I quickly schedule them into my airline. I also just imagine myself at the airport watching planes or think to myself, "oh, TG991 to BKK should be leaving about now".

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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:48 am

ZRH

CMB
KUL
TYO (or NRT)
SEL (or ICN)
CMB
DXB
BWN
BKI
KUL
FRA
LON
LAX
SIN
DAC
VTE
LPQ
BKK
and so on ...
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:01 am

AirframeAS - i know that  Wink/being sarcastic

fly727 put it exactly in the way that i was going to reply.

especially when it comes to places like TYO, NYC, CHI, ROM, PAR, LON, etc with multiple airports
 
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:11 am

The trouble comes when you have an airport code that is also the city code, for a city that has multiple airports eg. JNB

CITY :
JNB*C JOHANNESBURG /ZA:SOUTH AFRICA
AIRPORT-HELIPORT :
GCJ A GRAND CENTRAL /ZA - 0K
JNB A JOHANNESBURG /ZA - 0K
QRA A RANDGERMISTON /ZA - 0K
HCS H RANDBURG HPT /ZA - 0K
>

or DFW (yes, DFW is the city code for Dallas)

CITY :
DFW*C DALLAS /USTX:TEXAS
AIRPORT-HELIPORT :
ADS A ADDISON AIRPORT /USTX - 0K
FWH A CARSWELL AFB /USTX - 0K
DFW A DALLAS FT WORTH /USTX - 0K
DNE A DALLAS NORTH APT /USTX - 0K
AFW A FORT WORTH ALLIANCE /USTX - 0K
DAL A LOVE FIELD /USTX - 0K
FTW A MEACHAM FIELD /USTX - 0K
RBD A REDBIRD /USTX - 0K
JDB H DOWNTOWN HPT /USTX - 0K
JMD H MARKET CENTER HPT /USTX - 0K
JNH H NORTH PARK HPT /USTX - 0K

Or FRA (HHN vs FRA ?)

CITY :
FRA*C FRANKFURT /DE:GERMANY
AIRPORT-HELIPORT :
FRA A FRANKFURT INTL /DE - 0K
HHN A HAHN AIRPORT /DE - 0K
QGV A NEU ISENBURG /DE - 0K
FRF A RHEIN MAIN AFB /DE - 0K


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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:09 am

I do it all the time. I write them in emails and notes and stuff. I always have some one asking me what does BDL or LAX stand for. I also do the NN, HK, UC thing, too. Although I am trying to refrain from writing those, but it's a bad habit, I guess.
 
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:30 am

I do it all the time... and people who are not working/interested the business looses their mind with me!!!!
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:39 am

I do it all the time. The ones that i use most often are ACK, MVY, FLL, PBI, and MIA.
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:58 pm

Hailstone, just giving you a hard time about that, no worries there!  Big thumbs up
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:47 pm

FRAnkly, I dONT SUBscrIBE to this PRActice of uSINg airport CODes in nORMal writing. THEre is no use for tHIS. PERhaps people are too obsESSed wITH these codes and MAKe it hard for non-AVIation ENThusiasts to undeRSTand. it seems to be a LAX use of the LANguage and a SIN to boot, so I am ORDering all of YUL to stop.

 
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:58 pm

Some (or many?) airlines use a city code rather than a specific airport code, even for baggage tagging, as an example NYC rather than JFK, if it is the only airport they fly to in the New York area.
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Here in Buenos Aires, we have EZE and AEP... but in my notes, often, I write BUE instead.
I always write references to New York City as NYC... The place we land is JFK.
Amsterdam is to most AMS, but many airlines use SPL for Schiphol.
Paris is PAR, while we think of CDG or ORY...
How about Tokyo, I write it TYO, rather than NRT or HND...
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On my pilot paperwork and forms, I have to use 4 letter ICAO codes anyway...
And believe me, some of you guys know them BETTER than me... a pilot.
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RE: Airport Codes In Your Notes

Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:37 am

I use three-letter city designators all the time. They are that of the airport a majority of the time, but I will also use universals as well (NYC if I'm referring to the New York region, but often I use EWR since I'm in the Newark area a lot too), WAS for Washington, etc.

It does drive people crazy though, when I am planning an itenerary for someone, and the airline is in two-letter code, the cities are in three-letter code, the aircraft is in three-alphanumeric character code, and the times are in 24 hours. I always find myself translating the paper I just handed them.

Jeff