Cpn360
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NWA DC 10

Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:57 pm

I like to know within which period, NWA will retire this beauties on Intercontinental services?

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RE: NWA DC 10

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:07 pm

As soon as all the A330's are delivered. That should be the end of 05.
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RE: NWA DC 10

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:25 pm

I thought some would remain in the Pacific for some time. I mean, it doesn't pay to repaint them if they are to be desposed of in a year?
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RE: NWA DC 10

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:31 pm

and.... when will NWA retire its DC9s? haha  Acting devilish
 
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RE: NWA DC 10

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:34 pm

Jblake1,

I answered that last week: "AA will retire it's current livery when NW updates it's fleet of DC-9's"

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RE: NWA DC 10

Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:52 pm

Indefinetely will be on beach markets
 
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RE: NWA DC 10

Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:13 am

what routes exactly does NW consider to be beach routes? Hawaii?
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RE: NWA DC 10

Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:06 am

The original plan was for the DC10s to continue flying routes to/from the US mainland to Hawaii. NW flies to HNL from DTW (seasonal), MSP, SEA (sometimes 2 flights per day), SFO (suspended I believe), and LAX (also not operating at the moment) and from SEA to Maui. Under the DC10 renewal program, the A333s were to be operated on transatlantic routes exclusively, the A332s on lower-capacity transpacific services (it seems that SFO-Tokyo plus the to-be-launched PDX-Tokyo services will introduce the A332) plus a transatlantic segment here and there, and the 753s were to operate high demand domestic services including interhub flights.

The plans seem to have been revised, with the 753s to operate west coast-Hawaii services, including the re-introduction of the LAX-HNL, SFO-HNL, and the second daily SEA-HNL flight - before anyone complains about NW operating a narrow-body on a long-haul flight, please remember that yeilds on flights to Hawaii are not great, lots of travellers use reward tickets on Hawaiian routes, and the 753 has very-low per seat costs, it is the right aircraft for the job.

That leaves DTW-HNL and MSP-HNL, which are clearly out of range for the 753.....my guess is that these 2 routes will be among the last operated by NW's DC10s, and after the 10s are gone, will then be operated by a special configuration 742 (if they are still around) or 744, or, if NW orders a few additional A330s, a higher-density version of the A333 with a low-capicity domestic type first class cabin. I guess NW is playing wait and see at the moment, a lot depends on how the A332s perform on the transpacific routes.
 
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RE: NWA DC 10

Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:55 am

As far as I know, the plans are to retire the older ex KLM and Swissair until late 2005, leaving the younger aircraft (ex JAS and Thai) until 2008.
 
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RE: NWA DC 10

Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:20 pm

Thanks for all the replies, but I'm feeling a little bit confused now...
Can the real NWA specialist step fwd, please?  Smile

I will ask my question again more detailed...
When will the service with DC10 be determined on the AMS, FRA and CDG routes?
And what is the change to see A DC10 of NWA in the latest colors?

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RE: NWA DC 10

Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:28 pm

CPN,

The SEA-AMS will go to A330 later this year. All DTW-AMS are 330's..DTW-FRA 330's...LGW will later this year go to 330's. MSP-AMS will change in 2005 to A330's. The SFO-NRT in Oct/Nov change to A330...PDX-NRT will in Nov go to A330.

They have not totally decided WHEN the -30 will be gone...2005-2006 as of right now.

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RE: NWA DC 10

Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:29 pm

FRA is a A330 already.
CDG goes A330 in April I believe.
AMS 3 a day to DTW A330 , 1 a DC10. All four will be A330 in May.
LGW in September to A330.

The DC10 will continue to fly MSP and DTW to HNL. As well as some Pacific flying. DC10 service from MSP to LGW and AMS until 2005. (rumor at NWA)

The A332 will be placed on Pacific operations. Ie. NRT to PDX.

Supossedly the DC10's left in the fleet with the introduction of the A332 will be 15. Have not heard as of yet when all DC10's will be gone. But who knows in this business.

SEA to Maui and HNL will be 753's as of 10 June.
LAX to HNL will be reinstated this summer with 753.

Safe Flying  Smile

Hope this answers some of your questions.



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RE: NWA DC 10

Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:00 am

 
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RE: NWA DC 10

Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:57 am

Thanks for the clear answers.

@L.1011: thanks for the site and nice impression, but is this ever going to be real? I noticed that other "older" aircrafts of NWA are painted in this livery...

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