flyboy80
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F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:46 pm

This post is to A.net's wonderful F/A community out there... I was wondering what are your personal favorite aircraft to work? And why? Now, I'm not lookign for..." Because this aircraft usually flies on long routes, or to these cities..." I'm interested in what actual characteristics make this plane your favorite to work, or a type that you deffinately look forward to work on. Also, please feel free to answer the question in reverse as well! Thanks for any replies!
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:50 pm

A320/A319. The isles are large to move around a cart. The aft galley (on NWAs) are great....Large, roomy, no Pax in them. Carry-on's are usually not an issue because of the large bins.

747-400 UpperDeck would be 2nd for me...Love it up there in my own little world. (well mine and a fellow co-worker!)

A330 is great in WBC because all the "gadgets"..the great oven system we have installed...love having a "rice steamer" on board. Love having the cart chillers.

The DC9 is fun when I get to fly with a good friend. Just the two of us having fun for a few days.
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IntheKnow
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:52 pm

Hi

I work for VS and my fave is the A346. Good looking inside and very easy to work on as a senior crewmember. The IFE Avod V-PORT is simple to set up and work out if it goes wrong! Pax like it so we get an easy time.

I also like our LGW config B744s because I get an onboard office ,about the size of a lavatory but with the IFE equip and room to do paperwork and just generally escape the cabin!

Whats your fave then?

ITK
 
FA4UA
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:01 pm

Widebody: I love flying our (UA's) 777's international config with the lower lobe crew rest. This plane rocks!
-It's all computerized so I can switch off individual seats call bells if they get annoying (Babies playing with buttons, etc).
-The galleys are plenty large, and they have actual countertops to put stuff on.
-The galleys have floor heaters to combat against the Air Conditioning and the Food Chillers.
-The lower lobe crew rest is FABULOUS! The crew rest has large bunks and even an extra heater down there just in case we get cold!
-The PA is really high-quality and crystal clear. Of course the PTV's at every seat is a must for long-haul too.
-Finally: the experience of taking off in one of these big ole' beasts! FANTASTIC!

Narrowbody: A319.
-It's modern, wide aisles (as mentioned above),
-decent selection of music and video compared with the 757 and esp. compared with the 737 fleet!
-The galleys are easy to move stuff around in and the lighting is well done-- we can dim the lights like in a building-- instead of turning part off.
-Working First class on a 319 is a dream! Just eight passengers and me! Kinda intimate and relaxing! Passengers like it!

Honorable mention: the 757. Take off is always so fun, when it's fully staffed for a mid-range flight it's great. A full 757 transcon or Hawaii flight is not fun though... there's nowhere to hide! Too cramped! Oh yeah, who put the bloody lavatories in the galley?? I'd love to speak with that designer!

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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:04 pm

FA4UA,

You guys (UA) are the only carrier that has lavs in the galleys on 757's..are they that way also on your 320/319's?

Your union required "no carts to be in front of a jump seat"..so thats why lavs are there. I think is SO GROSS! Trying to eat a crew meal, have a pax in the lav....Give me cart in front of me any time!
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:21 pm

Mine would be CO 767400 Pacific Configuration. I love this aircraft cuz it has a roomy feel to it and it's real easy to serve the passengers.
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:25 pm

I work for KLM and have to say definitely the backgalley at the 747-400 combi! Lots of space for the crew and no toilets!
And also a big seat which can decline.
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:28 pm

Interesting to note that so far none of the answers refer to easy access to safety equipment, easy to evacuate passengers in case of emergencies etc.
We are normally led to believe that FA's are here to ensure the passengers safety, assist in emergencies blah blah blah. Somehow that little tune is a wee bit hard to believe after having read the above posts. One FA' loves the fact that he/she can escape the pax he/she is supposed to "Assist etc etc.". Glad to have the truth out in the open, and glad to notice that "assistance to pax song" can now be put on hold (at least based on these statements)
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:15 pm

747400F

Nice assesment from someone who is too scared to say what he does for a living on his profile. Talking rubbish is so easy when you can hide isn't it? Two suggestions, get your facts right and get a life.

ITK
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:27 pm

If you have to like airplanes because of how easy it was to evacuate passengers out of one, then you really shouldn't be flying.

Safety is one thing, but the cabin (or flightdeck on my part) is also a workplace. Do we think about safety all the time? Sure. But it's just like any other job, there are certain things which are considered perks which do not come under the 'requirements' needed for a safe flight (i.e. that Airbus table is a godsend, who needs a yoke, really).

Safety is to be expected of any aircraft we fly on, and it is the reason why we train so hard on things like this.
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:48 pm

right now i can only say the A320 is my fav. B6 is my first (and only) airline i'll be working for  Laugh out loud. Come next year when we get the E190's will be the deciding factor...though i'm gonna get trained on the 190's...as of right now i'd still prefer A320Bus cause its REALLY roomy compared to other narrow body planes i've flown on. our back galley is very roomy (even if there is a passenger or 2 back there chit-chatting w/ us).

now for a dream...i would LOVE to work on a B777. I've always had a facination (spelled?) for widebodies. (I fly between CA - HNL a lot to visit family). and also its pretty roomy and same w/ the galleys that i've seen on UA. Thank you UA!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Sun Mar 21, 2004 9:12 pm

767's, no doubt.

Aft galley massive, very crew friendly
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:14 am

Well, at Northwest where I'm furloughed now, my favorites are definitely the DC-9's and the DC-10's. At ACA DLC where I am now, the FRJ (328-JET) is a dream to work as an RJ, if only it were more reliable. I hate it now. For me to say I don't like this plane anymore, it has to be serious.
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:37 am


747400F,

The question here is what aircraft type do they like to be working on. Every aircraft type conforms to stringent safety requirements. However, the F/As are fully entitled to express their views on how they like their office to be and what makes it easier for them to do their job.

Do you as a traveler, ask to fly a particular aircraft type because it is comfortable, roomy, quiet etc or do you fly it because the slides on that type are wider or give a cushioned ride during evacuation? I think not.

As for the notion of someone trying to escape the pax and duties etc, you are wrong. It takes a lot to be in the service industry, and those who are here by choice, like IntheKnow, please do not insult them. Everyone needs a break that is well deserved. Being from the service industry I can tell you that it is good for keeping your sanity.


cheers


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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:48 am

Where is the "mini-office" on the VS 744 LGW for the FA?

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flyboy80
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:07 am

Sounds pretty good guys... It interesting what specific types come up in multi aircraft fleets... But if you worked for WN so to speak, I guess the 737 would have to be your favorite plane to work... however I wonder which model?
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:10 am

My favourite of all time was the 747-SP ( was very roomy and the back Y galley was huge). These days it has to be the 777. The passengers like the size and space of the aircraft not to mention the entertainment system that keeps them glued to their Tv screens for hours!.The 777 is very F/A friendly and has tons of space.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:25 am

A little anecdote here about F/As...
xxx
I am an ex-PanAm pilot who survives (well) in South America.
We ex-PamAmigos keep in touch. One of my friends is an ex-PanAm F/A...
xxx
I occasionally meet her. We talked about her favorite airplane...?"
Not the 727, 1011 or 747, no Sir...! - No regrets ever.
xxx
She now flies a Gulfstream G-IV-ER whatever you call these things.
Today she may do a flight to Geneva, next week to Hawaii, then Tokyo.
Her hotels...? - Five stars, all expenses paid within reason, no per diem, all paid.
xxx
She has an airplane with 12 (?) passenger seats, but rarely more than 3 or 4 passengers.
Catering, all ordered as per passengers requests, the day before... Lobster, escargots, whichever.
Beverages is not that easy, is it Chateau Margaux 1959 or Nuits St Georges 1977...
And that CEo's wife little Maltese dog? Oh yeah... Paté de foie...
xxx
Eh, Tania, would you love to get back flying airlines...?
Nope, her favorite is the G-IV... she hopes for a G-V soon...
See you at the Clipper Club soon, Tania.
xxx
Happy contrails  Smile
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:42 am

Windowseat.
Yes FA are free to air their points of view, as am I.
I mere stated the fact that FA's are normally very keen to emphazise how important safety is to them, and they are not on the a/c as waiters etc. Which is all very well for those who subscribe to that point of view.
Because safety appears to be so important to FA's on this and other boards I found it very strange that not one had mentioned it before I wrote my first post.

Sure everyone needs a break from customers when in the service industry -

When someone writes also like our LGW config B744s because I get an onboard office ,about the size of a lavatory but with the IFE equip and room to do paperwork and just generally escape the cabin! that to me indicates that that is someone who really is not that keen on passengers.



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RE: Singapore Girl-overhyped?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:11 am

No.
They may like the pax very much, but being stuck with the pax for 12 hours is not an easy task.
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What now?
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:59 am



They may like the pax very much, but being stuck with the pax for 12 hours is not an easy task

Amen




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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:01 am

You guys (UA) are the only carrier that has lavs in the galleys on 757's..are they that way also on your 320/319's?

Yeah, our 320/319 config is the same as the 757 with two aft lavatories in the same spots. I understand about the cart issue and I appreciate the safety of not having those two hundred bound beasts across from me, but.... can't they put the lavs mid-cabin as they do on other carriers? Obviously nothing is going to change in this area... maybe with the 7E7 they won't make this mistake (like the 777).

I love my job and I can honestly say I get a kick out of the passengers and especially the crew. However, after working with the public on long haul flights it starts to wear on your nerves. Sometimes you need a little corner to hide. It used to be the cockpit but now it's such a laborious chore to access it that nobody does anymore. Sometimes it gets a bit clausterphobic. Safety is a given anyway... On UA's fleet there are fire extinguishers just about everywhere, O2 at every corner, extra rafts, all sorts of medical devices, and of course our evac system is the best of the best... it's all assumed in this thread.

I just flew in PDX-LAX and then deviated... love that 757 for takeoffs and landings! I loved landing today in LAX, the captain really floored the reverse thrusters with our full load... it even freaked out some passengers because it was so loud! I just sat there grinning!

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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:20 am

747-400F

You need to get some things straight man... Just because someone says they like having an office on a 747 does NOT mean they HATE passengers. You sound like someone that loves twisting words....
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:47 am

Working for TZ I do not have too much of a choice, but primarily flying out of MDW, the power of the take-offs are awesome in the 757-300. As far as service, is is pretty much consistant throughout the fleet. The stepchild is the L1011-500. We start the service in the middle of the aircraft rather than ends to middle. I am very interested in seeing the new procedures this fall with the addition of business class.
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:44 am

What a fantastic topic!!

It's really fascinating to see the opinions of the F/As on here!

Keep them coming!!

Trent  Smile
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:14 pm

747 440F aaah F/A's are there for safety we didn't make that up and demand that people "subscribe to that point of view" international safety regulations demand that our purpose on board be safety. Airlines these days would have vending machines on board if they were able . They are cheaper then we are and give correct change when jet lagged. I love my job and have met so many wonderful people but after a transatlantic red-eye ya need a break we are human. You are entitled to your own opinion but please next time try not to talk out of your wazoo ok you just end up sounding ignorant.
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:30 pm

Hey FAs... dont you love it how we all lose our sense of personal space from working in the galley ! ...

Favs...

747-200 as relief lead FA... take care of the WBC galley and deal with 8 WBC passengers.

A319.. Good storage space for all your stuff, wide aisle, only 108 people in coach instead of 132 on the A320. Huge overheads and plenty of space to shove all the passenger crap.
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:59 pm

747400F, dude, get off your high horse and drop the snotty attitude. You work in customer service as long as these fine F/A did and still do, you be agressed by stupidity, arrogance and lack of common sense day after day, you be overworked and sleep deprived, and then come and lecture and preach.
None of the F/A here expressed a dislike for their job or passengers, none of them discounted the importance of safety, they merely expressed a personal preference.

Moreover they are doing it in their spare time, they're not on the job, this is supposed to be fun, and they don't need to be lectured about things they are most competent and keen about.

Get a life, dude!

 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:49 pm

AC345

You have your opinion, I have mine.

Flug,
Just because we don't agree, does not mean I talk out of my ass.
Sounds to me like I might have hit a you on a sore nail. But then again that is just my interpretation.

Sure you need a break after a red-eye transatlantic - that why you don't fly back immidiately after landing. Your airline either pays for hotel or you get to go home!
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IntheKnow
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:10 am

SafetyDude,

Just fwd of L2 Door on ours although I believe it can be in several locations depending on airline needs.

regards

ITK
 
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:19 am

747-400F:
A good friend of mine who is a F/A with Delta has had to work an ATL-LAX turn in a 767-400 on Thanksgiving, flight full, selling food. I've heard plenty of stories from him about how hard it can be doing this. By the way...the flight back to ATL could almost be considered a red eye flight. They had no break after they got to LAX. Just a few moments of quiet time on the plane before they boarded the thing full again for the return to ATL.

F/A's do a damn good job considering what they have to do almost every day. Yes, I think you were talking out your ass. Just because every now and then a F/A wants to get a break during a flight from pax, does not mean they care any less about safety, and doing their job well. EVERYONE needs a break every now and then. And F/A's work harder than most employees at any job. The sheer fact that my friend did that ATL-LAX turn on short notice, late at night, is testament enough in my opinion. It's the passengers that take for granted that they get serviced as nicely as they do. When a flight attendent looks less that perky...stop to think that they just might be on their 5th leg that day, and all they've had is 15 minutes to inhale the lunch they brought on board with them.

Ok...rant over. I'm done now. Thanks for listening  Innocent
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RE: F/A's, Favorite Aircraft To Work?

Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:31 am

747 400F

No real knowledge regarding a certain topic = talking out of your ass and is not a opinion even if you think your entitled to it.