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Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:50 am

I did a search, and I saw nothing.

I am going from Chicago to Italy on a 767-300. Seems like a long route for the 763. What is the longest route for a 763?

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:01 am

AC flies YYZ-TLV with the 763. EL AL flies the same route with the 762.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:04 am

How long is GIG-FRA Varig and LGW-JNB Nationwide?

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:14 am


Av8Air/Icelandair's MAN-CPT non-stop routing comes in at 6140 miles on the Great Circle Mapper. LGW-JNB = 5595, YYZ-TLV = 5788 and GIG-FRA is 5930.

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:33 am

David,
I thought AV8's flights operated MAN-DUB-PMI-CPT-PMI-DUB-MAN?

Under most conditions I think a B767-300ER would struggle to comfortably operate a non-stop MAN-CPT-MAN service with 282 passengers, which is how I believe the AV8/Icelandair B767 is laid out.

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:55 am

Just thought I'd mention that SK flew a 767 CPH-Bali nonstop to pick up scandinavians there after the bombings.

I think the article in SAS Inside said it was a 16-hour flight!
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:06 am

SK also used to visit LAX with a 767-200 (maybe later on it became a 763).
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:15 am

How about AC YYZ - India?
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:39 am

Melbourne to Tokyo on Qantas is operated by a B767-300ER series.
QF 179 is 10 hours 30 minutes, whilst the reverse flight:
QF 180 is 10 hours 25 minutes.

Now that is a long flight!!
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:47 am

isn't AC YYZ-India on a 343?
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:50 am

How about AC YYZ - India?

AC does not operate non-stop to India with 763. If you meant YYZ-DEL, it's an A343.

YYZ-TLV is 5030 nm, and takes almost 12 hours on the return flight (TLV-YYZ)
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:16 am

How about AC YYZ - India?

AC used to operate the flight with a 767 a long time ago, but the routing was YYZ-LHR-BOM-SIN - none of the sectors were longer than YYZ-TLV for example.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:28 am

I thought AC started flying YYZ to India again? I was in YYZ in October and they were boarding a flight to Indai ( not sure which cisty). Have they stopped that route since October?
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:29 am

Is this thread just talking about non-stop flights?

AMM and BY (now discontinued) operate LGW or MAN to PVR via MCO/SFB
5948miles.

If non-stops, then MEL-NRT has it at the moment - 5060mi non stop.


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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:38 am

I know when I flew with AA we flew the 767-200ER and 300ER from MIA to LHR and CDG. I know the LHR route was close to 11 hrs, which was miserable!!
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:42 am

Alitalia flew MXP-SFO...

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:55 am

From http://gc.kls2.com

MEL - NRT = 4397 nm
MIA - LHR = 3845 nm
CPH - LAX = 4887 nm
GIG - FRA = 5153 nm
YYZ - TLV = 5030 nm
ORD - FCO = 4191 nm

So RG GIG - FRA is the current longest non stop B767 route

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:11 am

I thought AC started flying YYZ to India again?

They did. Read the posts. They fly it with a 343.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:17 am

I don't understand all the "miserable" comments about the 767 on long-haul flights. In Y class, I think the 2-3-2 arrangement is superior to any other aircraft for comfort and flexibility.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:18 am

First Choice Airways operate a weekly Gatwick-Puerto Vallarta service with a B767-300ER. The outbound flight stops in Cancun to refuel, but the return leg is non-stop Puerto Vallarta-Gatwick which according to Great Circle Mapper is 5742nm.


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B767s have of course been used on longer non-stop routes in the past, before the A330/B777 became as common as they are now.

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:23 am

AC used to operate the flight with a 767 a long time ago, but the routing was YYZ-LHR-BOM-SIN -

This AC route was with the 742 and L15. Never the 762/763.

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:24 am

Crosswind

They are going non-stop back from PVR to the UK. Bloody hell! That is a long way to sit in a charter seat. Flew PVR-MCO-LGW with BY a few years ago which was long but at least there was a stop.
Do you know how long that flight takes?


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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:26 am

This AC route was with the 742 and L15. Never the 762/763.

Are you sure it wasn't operated with the 762ER at some point in the late 1980s? I have a picture of my father standing outside of an AC 767 in BOM that he flew on that route, it was in 1989.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:27 am

Condor operating on behalf of Lufthansa was flying FRA-PHX!!
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:53 am

TAESA back in the 90,s flew VIE-ACA with a 767-300ER reg was XA-SKY.NOT sure with the distance was but it has to be up there.
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:00 pm

JETSET

From http://gc.kls2.com

From To Distance
VIE (48°06'37"N 16°34'11"E) ACA (16°45'25"N 99°45'13"W) 6501 mi
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:01 pm

Some Southern Cone flights to North America are among the longest for 763s:

Current UA
IAD (38°56'40"N 77°27'21"W) EZE (34°49'24"S 58°31'44"W) 5217 mi
Current AA
JFK (40°38'23"N 73°46'44"W) EZE (34°49'24"S 58°31'44"W) 5282 mi
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'17"W) EZE (34°49'24"S 58°31'44"W) 5286 mi
Upcoming UA
ORD (41°58'46"N 87°54'16"W) EZE (34°49'24"S 58°31'44"W) 5603 mi
Current AC
YYZ (43°40'38"N 79°37'50"W) SCL (33°23'35"S 70°47'09"W) 5332 mi

Certainly not the absolute longest, but close.

I don't understand all the "miserable" comments about the 767 on long-haul flights. In Y class, I think the 2-3-2 arrangement is superior to any other aircraft for comfort and flexibility.


I agree completely. I would rather spend 11 hours in a 763 to Argentina or 9+hours to Europe than a 744 or especially a DC-10. Better layout and they feel cozy.
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:05 pm

USAtoEze

I agree completely. I would rather spend 11 hours in a 763 to Argentina or 9+hours to Europe than a 744 or especially a DC-10. Better layout and they feel cozy

Agree with you. They do feel cozy. Nicely put!

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:12 pm

Take a look at the following thread:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1450725

It basically deals with this matter. And bear in mind that the miles used in the Great Circle Mapper are statute miles, whereas nautical miles are used in aviation. In the thread I mention, you will also see that distance is not the only factor for determining how far an airplane can fly. Altitude and temperature of the airports, engines fitted, passenger and cargo loads, etc. are all very important factors too. Finally remember that a 762ER has longer range than a 763ER because it is lighter and therefore more fuel efficient.
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:14 pm

Both EG and TW have done JFK-CAI with a 767. Where does that come in?

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:18 pm

I flew LHR-LAX on a UA763...11 hours, 15 minutes. Seemed more like an eternity...uggghh....

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:24 pm

Oh, and I agree. I think I rather fly a 767ER in coach because the 2-3-2 configuration is less cramped and boarding and exiting times are shorter.
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:16 pm

we've definately had this conversation at least twice before...


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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:47 pm

If Southern Winds still flies from BUE to MAD with a 767-300 (I assumed this is/was the equipment they were using, might actually be a 767-200),
then this could definitely be one of the longest routes,

6236 mi,

or 5419 nm
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:42 pm

The only time I did PVR-LGW in a 763 (AMM) it took an impressive 9 hours 50 mins, with a generous tailwind all the way home. Scheduled sector time was 11:00

Outbound was LGW-SFB-PVR as Crosswind stated, the LGW-SFB sector taking 9 hours alone with the strong headwinds that day.
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:52 pm

Maybe not the longest flight, but pretty long anyway...

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:47 pm

Air New Zealand operated a 763 on the AKL-NAN (Fiji)-LAX route........NAN-LAX is quite longe.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:35 am

Air France was used to fly its B767-300ER on the CDG-SFO route in the mid-90's... That was quite a long flight... Sad
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:42 am

LH used to fly non-stop to SIN from somewhere in Germany, possibly mun with 763's
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:49 am

There are a few long-haul flights from YVR operated by AC with 763.

YVR-PVG 5615mi
YVR-PEK 5291mi
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:12 am

I flew AA LHR-LAX a couple of years ago when it still operated on a 767-323ER. I know this is not the longest scheduled route for a 767 in terms of block time or mileage, but due to strong headwinds that day the flight time was 12hrs 9 mins!. I think that must be a near record for that particular route. As a comparism I have since flown the route in 9hrs 43 mins on a B747-400 - quite a difference!

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:54 am

In Feb I spend 10 hrs 30 mins on United 847 from Washington DC to Buenos Aires!! and I'm sure the aircraft continues to somewhere else in sth America, I also believe the ORD-EZE route is a 763 (with UA anyway)

Have to admit, the IAD-EZE flight went quicker than the LHR-IAD flight I had just done about 2 hours b4 boarding me IAD-EZE flight!!

763 is my fav aircraft, as cabin crew/flight attendant I prefer the 763 to all Boeing aircraft although I am an avid airbus fan!! But will always have time for the 767!! Its my baby at work!! I love it!!
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:14 am

Click here

Anyone remember back in the late 1980s when BY did charter flights from Luton to Perth and Canberra (amongst other Aussie destinations). The Luton-Canberra route is just over 9100nm -- of course wasn't flown non-stop, but to fly the route in one of BY's sardine cans would have been murder.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:23 am

Doesn't AC operate SYD-HNL-YVR?
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:33 am

OK here is a follow up-Ignoring whether the airport can handle a large plane what two airports with ATC codes are the furthest apart? are any more than 11,000 sm? I can't find any.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:17 am

Air Mauritius used to fly with 767 to Europe.

London-Mauritius 5264 nm

767-200 or 767-300????

I think they fly A340 now in 2004.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:55 am

Don´t forget MEX-CDG, according to the Great Circle Mapper is 5725 miles.
 
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RE: Farthest Apart Airports

Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:01 am

You can't find two airports "with ATC codes" more than 11,000 sm apart? Where are you looking? Should be easy to beat that. Shanghai to Buenos Aires, for starters.
 
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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:47 am


Crosswind, as per today's service (ICE1320) dept MAN 1641 ETA CPT 0437 (it took off from 06R today) ; the return may occasionally operate a tech stop at PMI as I've noticed that it can be running up to 2 hours later than expected.

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RE: Longest Flight For A 763

Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:07 am

David,
Just checked and you're indeed correct.
EET from today's flight plan is 11hrs57min - pretty impressive for a B767.

My original duff info was from PPRuNe  Smile

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