wilco
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Arinc "Radio Operators"

Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:06 am

I was curious if anyone had an opinion about the following job description with ARINC (i.e. is this a dead end job, graveyards shift for years, etc.):

Title Radio Operator
City Livermore
State CA
Country USA
Position Type Full Time
Job Description
International and domestic air and ground communications. Utilizes radio (HF, VHF), computer, and telephone modes of communication. Receives, copies and delivers ATC clearances, advisories, and requests as required. Operate radio equipment, control position equipment, point–to-point systems for delivery of air/ground traffic, radio connection facilities for dispatchers and other authorized stations. Salary: $17.00/hour start. Increase to $18.50/hour after 6 months. $19.50/hour after one year. Training provided.
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xjramper
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RE: Arinc "Radio Operators"

Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:23 am

If you are talking about a controlled airfield, then you need a degree in that. I have tried applying for a job at Toledo Express in the tower and then denied my app because i have to go to school for this. It pays well and if you can handle stress and have the degree you are all set for it. I know some of the guys that have this job and they love it.

The only reason I applied for this job: I am a pilot. This job would have given me the radio skills when I am on the other side of the mic.

My .02

XJR
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wilco
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RE: Arinc "Radio Operators"

Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:28 am

XJR... let me clarify. This is with ARINC, not a local tower. This is not ATC, this is providing clearances and such.... I am qualified for it and am being offered a job.

I am looking for someone experienced with this position and their review of it... if you don't know what ARINC is you probably can't answer this question for me....

thanks to all,
wilco

(for those of you interested, ARINC is a private company that provides communication services for inflight commercial airliners. this includes providing weather, ATC clearances, company messages, etc. This specific postion is for transpacific flights)

[Edited 2004-03-22 19:31:29]
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mconway
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RE: Arinc "Radio Operators"

Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:33 am

I do the exact same job at YQX and work daily with New York ARINC. It is of course a 24/7 operation, so if shift work is not the job for you then don't bother applying. As for the long term outlook. Technological advances have reduced the dependency on HF communications. Increasing numbers of aircraft are ADS or CPDLC equipped, and as such position reports are made automatically. I'd say here at YQX we have seen maybe a 25-30 percent drop in the number of HF voice reports we copy. A new form of automatic reporting is in trial phase at the moment, utililizing the aircraft's FMC. Call it a poor man's ADS. Once this comes on stream (and it will), we should see a further drop in our air/ground contacts. There will always be a need for HF radio, but not to the extent there is today. On the Atlantic for example, there are five network ground stations. I can see the day when there will probably only be two left. This might be 5 or 10 years - it's a job to really tell when. I imagine the same thing applies to the Pacific. As for the job itself, I have mixed feelings. I've been at it 12 years and to me, it has become just a job. Things could be much better if not for the stinking company I work for (Nav Canada), but that's another topic. It certainly has it's interesting moments and I enjoy the interaction with the air crews. HF radio being what it is can be a pain in the you now what during times of poor propagation. Sorry I'm not being more helpful but like I said, It's the mixed feelings coming out.
 
xjramper
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RE: Arinc "Radio Operators"

Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:37 am

Wilco,

At TOL, the tower(they do everything plus approach and departure) is worked and controlled by ARINC. They do all of the above listings. Thats why I replied to this post.

XJR
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wilco
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RE: Arinc "Radio Operators"

Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:45 am

XJR.... thanks for your response. I understand the confusion now.... RADIO OPERATOR is a pretty vague title. I believe the FAA contracts ARINC "air traffic controllers" to operate their TOL tower (and many others for that matter). ARINC "Radio Operators" provide a more mundane, windowless method of communication with inflight aircraft...

MCONWAY.... that was great insight on the position.... thanks much. I was surprised to see their Livermore station (pacific) hiring so many people. not sure if i want to do this.... used to work at a local tower and don't know if i want to be in a dark windowless room for the next decade.



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[Edited 2004-03-22 19:48:39]
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mconway
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RE: Arinc "Radio Operators"

Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:00 am

We are co-located with Gander ACC here, so I am very familiar with the "no window" concept  Smile

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